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  • ahinton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16123

    #76
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    Cheers AB. it sure is tough at the top !!
    The world would be a better place if we all waved a bit more, and bickered on internet forums a bit less.
    Ah, THOSE rules! "Britannia wa(i)ves the rules", as in. I understand what you meant now.

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37820

      #77
      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      I think the whole
      "they work hard for us" script is largely "received wisdom"
      it's part of the "script" that we are all supposed to go along with
      other parts of the same narrative are

      "all soldiers are heroes"
      "petrol is expensive"
      "we all are fascinated by football"
      "young people are rude and self centred"
      "all disabled people on benefits are fraudsters"
      "we have an epidemic of alcohol problems that is confined to the lower classes"
      "rain is bad, sun is good"
      "the alternative to the Royal Family is president Blair"


      etc etc

      fiction is a powerful thing indeed
      I'd add one more: "our boys in blue"

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      • Lateralthinking1

        #78
        But the alternative to the Royal Family is President Blair!

        (......Brown, Callaghan, Cameron-Clegg, Major, Miliband, Osborne, Thatcher, Wilson.....)

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          #79
          Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
          But the alternative to the Royal Family is President Blair!

          (......Brown, Callaghan, Cameron-Clegg, Major, Miliband, Osborne, Thatcher, Wilson.....)
          Only if one has little imagination !
          why not president Palin (NOT THAT ONE !!!!!!)

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          • Lateralthinking1

            #80
            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            Only if one has little imagination !
            why not president Palin (NOT THAT ONE !!!!!!)
            With the best of intentions, aren't you being a bit rose tinted Mr GG?

            Start to go down that road. I promise you. The electorate will choose Jeremy Clarkson.

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #81
              Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
              With the best of intentions, aren't you being a bit rose tinted Mr GG?

              Start to go down that road. I promise you. The electorate will choose Jeremy Clarkson.
              The intelligent among the electorate will choose Meryl Streep (although she'd presumably have to become a British citizen first).

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              • VodkaDilc

                #82
                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                if its so tough, they could resign.

                And give up the pay and perks.

                They won't.
                They tell us they work hard. well they would, wouldn't they.
                We all recall what happened when Princess Margaret had the choice of marrying Townsend and giving up all her privilege. She ditched Townsend!

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                  With the best of intentions, aren't you being a bit rose tinted Mr GG?

                  Start to go down that road. I promise you. The electorate will choose Jeremy Clarkson.
                  aaah I see
                  "democracy" is ok for choosing governments but we can't trust the proles to make the "right choice" of a president !
                  such little faith indeed

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                  • VodkaDilc

                    #84
                    I think that many of us who object to the idea of monarchy still have much respect for the present queen.

                    However, once that character is removed from the role, especially with a less attractive successor, I imagine that the popularity of the institution will drop. And if he tries to impose a Queen Camilla on the country (as many will say, is constitutionally inevitable), I look forward to the fireworks.

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25226

                      #85
                      Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                      We all recall what happened when Princess Margaret had the choice of marrying Townsend and giving up all her privilege. She ditched Townsend!
                      good point.

                      The people at the top fought long and hard to get there. (well they had other people fight long and hard).

                      They don't give their privilege up easily.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • amateur51

                        #86
                        Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                        I think that many of us who object to the idea of monarchy still have much respect for the present queen.

                        However, once that character is removed from the role, especially with a less attractive successor, I imagine that the popularity of the institution will drop. And if he tries to impose a Queen Camilla on the country (as many will say, is constitutionally inevitable), I look forward to the fireworks.
                        They'll have to revoke all the anti-smoking legislation for a start

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22183

                          #87
                          Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                          We all recall what happened when Princess Margaret had the choice of marrying Townsend and giving up all her privilege. She ditched Townsend!
                          Is that why he trashed his guitar on stage?

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                          • amateur51

                            #88
                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Is that why he trashed his guitar on stage?

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                            • VodkaDilc

                              #89
                              Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                              We all recall what happened when Princess Margaret had the choice of marrying Townsend and giving up all her privilege. She ditched Townsend!
                              And, even in those pre-spin days, it was presented as the ultimate act of sacrificing her own happiness for the country!

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                              • ahinton
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16123

                                #90
                                Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                                I think that many of us who object to the idea of monarchy still have much respect for the present queen.

                                However, once that character is removed from the role, especially with a less attractive successor, I imagine that the popularity of the institution will drop. And if he tries to impose a Queen Camilla on the country (as many will say, is constitutionally inevitable), I look forward to the fireworks.
                                You may well be right about this; I know several hardened republicans who nevertheless wish to see the monarchy in Britain last until the Queen dies or packs it in (almost certainly the former rather than the latter) and some of these suspect that it might begin gradually to implode of its own accord thereafter without any need for it to be overthrown per se.

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