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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    Boulez, Messiaen, Dutilleux and Varèse, but no Jolivet in my collection. A bit of a blind spot for me. I don’t know much about his music. I’ve ordered this 4 CD set of recordings ranging from late 1950s to late 1970s, mainly with the composer conducting. Doesn’t contain any symphonies or ballet works, though.


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    • Pulcinella
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      • Feb 2014
      • 10897

      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      Boulez, Messiaen, Dutilleux and Varèse, but no Jolivet in my collection. A bit of a blind spot for me. I don’t know much about his music. I’ve ordered this 4 CD set of recordings ranging from late 1950s to late 1970s, mainly with the composer conducting. Doesn’t contain any symphonies or ballet works, though.


      I bought this a while back having been impressed with the Suite liturgique that I heard on an internet station; sadly this version is different (choir not solo) and I wasn't as taken by it, or by much of the other music, tbh. But might give them all another spin.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
        I bought this a while back having been impressed with the Suite liturgique that I heard on an internet station; sadly this version is different (choir not solo) and I wasn't as taken by it, or by much of the other music, tbh. But might give them all another spin.
        As George Bush said, ‘no man ever walks into the same river twice’.

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 10897

          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          As George Bush said, ‘no man ever walks into the same river twice’.
          I have done; got my feet wet both times.

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25195

            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            Boulez, Messiaen, Dutilleux and Varèse, but no Jolivet in my collection. A bit of a blind spot for me. I don’t know much about his music. I’ve ordered this 4 CD set of recordings ranging from late 1950s to late 1970s, mainly with the composer conducting. Doesn’t contain any symphonies or ballet works, though.


            to save me looking up, has it got the Ondes Martenot Concerto on it?
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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              to save me looking up, has it got the Ondes Martenot Concerto on it?
              Yes, it does.

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 10897

                Yes.
                On CD2, with Jeanne Loriod as the soloist.
                Composer conducting the Orchestre Philharmonique de l'ORTF

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Yes.
                  On CD2, with Jeanne Loriod as the soloist.
                  Composer conducting the Orchestre Philharmonique de l'ORTF
                  Thanks for the details - for some reason there is not much info about this set.

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                  • Pulcinella
                    Host
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10897

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Thanks for the details - for some reason there is not much info about this set.
                    Here's Presto's listing, with little snippets to listen to.
                    Individual performances not credited but at least all soloists given.

                    André Jolivet - The Erato Recordings. Warner Classics: 2564613202. Buy download online. André Navarra (cello), Mstislav Rostropovich (cello), Maurice André (trumpet), Lily Laskine (harp), Jean-Pierre Rampal (flute), Yvonne Loriod (ondes Martenot), Colette Herzog (soprano) Orchestre Lamoureux, Orchestre National de l’O.R.T.F., Orchestre de l’Opera de Paris, Orchestre...

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      Here's Presto's listing, with little snippets to listen to.
                      Individual performances not credited but at least all soloists given.

                      http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/W...ics/2564613202


                      Why didn’t I think to do that?

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                      • HighlandDougie
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3082

                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        Here's Presto's listing, with little snippets to listen to.
                        Individual performances not credited but at least all soloists given.

                        http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/W...ics/2564613202
                        Having had a sudden memory of a World Record Club LP - gone to Oxfam, alas - with Mstislav Rostropovich playing the Cello Concerto (and I confess I had to look up the B side - the Five Ritual Dances), duly ordered.

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                        • Richard Barrett
                          Guest
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6259

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Boulez, Messiaen, Dutilleux and Varèse, but no Jolivet in my collection. A bit of a blind spot for me. I don’t know much about his music. I’ve ordered this 4 CD set of recordings ranging from late 1950s to late 1970s, mainly with the composer conducting.
                          Jolivet had a very strong influence on Messiaen at a certain point, but IMO his music is a lot less interesting. Also I seem to recall those recordings sounding a bit harsh.

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                            Jolivet had a very strong influence on Messiaen at a certain point, but IMO his music is a lot less interesting. Also I seem to recall those recordings sounding a bit harsh.
                            I’ve listened to a few pieces from the download today. The Messiaen forerunning is interesting. The sound is coarse in places (some of the recordings are quite old now), but I quite like it. First thoughts are that his music is more interesting than some of Dutilleux's! I say that for no apparent reason!

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                            • pastoralguy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7739

                              Just had an email to say my long awaited 'Elgar Remastered ' set is on its way from Presto!

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                              • Richard Tarleton

                                Two promising new books on their way here - Yuval Noah Harari's Homo Deus, the follow-up to his Sapiens, and John le Carré's sort of autobiog, The Pigeon Tunnel - he was on the radio explaining the title.

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