What CD, book, DVD etc are you waiting for?

[Beef Oven!]

My EMI 'Great Recordings Of The Century' CD of M2 says 79 mins 24 secs (total timing given in booklet).

If you add up the times on the individual moments/tracks in the booklet, it actually comes to 79 mins 20 secs.

I have it in my I tunes library and adding the individual tracks as shown in there, it comes to 79 mins 21 secs.

[Bryn]

I did wonder whether that could be the answer. Now EMI has gone we can't really do a VW on them can we? But if it is quickened up the pitch must be a little higher but would it show and if it does would it just sound that little bit brighter and be passed off as a superior remastering? A bit like listening to an LP at 33.33333333 and a bit before we checked it against the strobe?

No need for a change of pitch. You just discard samples here and there to speed things up. Up to a percent or two it's hard to tell.

Most Digital Audio Workstations (DAWs) offer the facility.

Time Stretch


The Time Stretch effect allows you to alter the length of a signal without changing its pitch.


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What do you want to do?
Change the length of a sound
Open the Time Stretch dialog.

Choose a preset from the Preset drop-down list, or adjust the controls as desired:

a. Choose a Mode from the drop-down list.

Time Stretch provides 19 different modes that are designed to maintain the highest quality for specific types of material. A mode that works great for drums will not work as well for string pads, for example.

You should be able to achieve excellent results for ratios between 75% and 115%. Beyond this range, you will start to hear artifacts such as echoes, flanging, or drop-outs. Also, running the process a number of times using small increments (such as 105%) will create different effects than processing all at once with a large time change.

b. Drag the Final Percentage slider to change the length of the selection.

The Final Percentage slider may be displayed as Final Percentage, Final Time, or Final tempo, depending on the setting of the Input format drop-down list.

[Petrushka]

My EMI 'Great Recordings Of The Century' CD of M2 says 79 mins 24 secs (total timing given in booklet).

If you add up the times on the individual moments/tracks in the booklet, it actually comes to 79 mins 20 secs.

I have it in my I tunes library and adding the individual tracks as shown in there, it comes to 79 mins 21 secs.

According to the timings in the Warner box, every one of those listed on the GROC recording is 2 seconds faster than Warner. Total time of the Warner issue is 80'15'' (not 80'10'' as I mentioned above - sorry for typo).

[Beef Oven!]

According to the timings in the Warner box, every one of those listed on the GROC recording is 2 seconds faster than Warner. Total time of the Warner issue is 80'15'' (not 80'10'' as I mentioned above - sorry for typo).

The plot thickens!

[Beef Oven!]

But would they have had to come down to 79.25 from 80.15 to get it onto 1 disc? I don't think so.

There's something about this that doesn't smell right.

[Bryn]

But would they have had to come down to 79.25 from 80.15 to get it onto 1 disc? I don't think so.

There's something about this that doesn't smell right.

Well, when we get our Warner boxes we can check.

[Beef Oven!]

Well, when we get our Warner boxes we can check.

You've ordered the Warner set?

[Bryn]

At that price, and not having the 4th or recent re-masterings of the others, sure I have.

[Beef Oven!]

At that price, and not having the 4th or recent re-masterings of the others, sure I have.

Makes sense. I look forward to the publication of the results of your comparison of the twos.

[Barbirollians]

The EMI Studio pressing from 1989 is 79.21 .

[Bryn]

The EMI Klemperer Mahler 2 was, of course, analogue. There is always the possibility that tape playback speed did not precisely match that of the recording. Steve Reich developed his phasing technique from such a phenomenon.

[Beef Oven!]

This has arrived this morning.

I'm going to listen to #7 and may be some time.................












QUOTE=Beef Oven!;542735]Petrushka's postings about OK's M7 made me want to give a quick (?) listen. I quickly realised that I don't have a recording of it. So I've ordered this. I have a memory of someone, somewhere, in summertime, saying that the EMI France are the best transfers. Some doubles, but I don't have M$ either. Not bad for £7.50, all in.







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This has arrived this morning.

I'm going to listen to #7 and may be some time.................

[Globaltruth]

Awaiting the arrival, in book form, of The Karamazov Brothers
By Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Edited/Translated by Ignat Avsey.
My friend has read several different translations and tells me this is by far the best. For various reasons I have never read the book at all.
Our discussion on translation led us to this article from 2005

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/11/07/the-translation-wars

which I think well worth sharing.
Apparently, according to prolific translator of Russian works, Robert Chandler, P & V are deemed not so hot nowadays.

[umslopogaas]

I am very tempted to buy the complete Philips recordings by Alfred Brendel. I have several on LP and he was my introduction to late Schubert sonatas. Problem is, there are 114 CDs! However bargain basement the price, its going to be expensive. And since the issuing company is Decca (despite the originals being Philips), the price may not be bargain basement.

[Bryn]

But would they have had to come down to 79.25 from 80.15 to get it onto 1 disc? I don't think so.

There's something about this that doesn't smell right.

Both the CD on the boxed set we now have, and the 2015 Warner single disc issue give the total time as 79' 24". Where does the 80' + claim come from?