What CD, book, DVD etc are you waiting for?

[Conchis]

Schoenberg - Verklaerte Nacht - Berlin Philharmonic - Karajan
Schoenberg - Pelleas und Melisande - ditto

In fact the CD just arrived.

Had an old cassette of the Karajan London farewell concert which started with Verklaerte Nacht - but the tape ran out a minute or so before the end. I've finally got round to replacing it with a CD. Don't know the Pelleas but will get into it in the next few days.

Considered a 'controversial' interpretation, certainly of V.N., although the Penguin Guide always liked it.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Considered a 'controversial' interpretation, certainly of V.N.,

Is it?! By whom?

(The actual last London performance - at which a number of Forumistas were present - is available on a Testament CD if ChrisB wishes to hear it again:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Symphony-No-Verklarte-Nacht-Karajan/dp/B001IT75FU/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1433855044&sr=1-2&keywords=karajan%2C+testament

[ChrisBennell]

Is it?! By whom?

(The actual last London performance - at which a number of Forumistas were present - is available on a Testament CD if ChrisB wishes to hear it again:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Symphony-No-...n%2C+testament

Thanks for that - I didn't know it was still in circulation. As well as missing the last minute or so of Verklaerte Nacht on my cassette, I also recorded the Brahms at the time - only for my daughter to accidentally erase part of it subsequently! Must get a replacement CD of that as well, sometime, to sit alongside my Rattle BPO set.

[Conchis]

Is it?! By whom?

(The actual last London performance - at which a number of Forumistas were present - is available on a Testament CD if ChrisB wishes to hear it again:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Symphony-No-...n%2C+testament

Several Schoenbergians, like Boulez (and Norman Lebrecht) consider it far too suave and polished to be a realistic depiction of the composer's intentions. Personally, I like it.

[Roehre]

Several Schoenbergians, like Boulez (and Norman Lebrecht) consider it far too suave and polished to be a realistic depiction of the composer's intentions. Personally, I like it.

I am afraid I am not interested in whatever Lebrecht says, but to some extent Boulez has got a point - listening and comparing his recording and Karajan's makes that clear.
But OTOH there is that 1937 Suite for strings in G-major, which is a piece which wouldn't survive Boulez's approach.
Does it mean that Schönberg approached the Suite differently from the 1943 version of Verklärte Nacht , which IIRC is the score used by Karajan?
It's also interesting to listen to Karajan's recording of Strauss' Metamorphosen, made around the same time as those for that great/infamous 4LP Schönberg/Berg/Webern set.

We mustn't forget that Schönberg is essentially a conservative composer, e.g. the Variations op.31 nothing but a nice Brahms with some "wrong notes" (and her the recordings by Boulez, Karajan and Solti tell us some stories)

[Conchis]

I am afraid I am not interested in whatever Lebrecht says, but to some extent Boulez has got a point - listening and comparing his recording and Karajan's makes that clear.
But OTOH there is that 1937 Suite for strings in G-major, which is a piece which wouldn't survive Boulez's approach.
Does it mean that Schönberg approached the Suite differently from the 1943 version of Verklärte Nacht , which IIRC is the score used by Karajan?
It's also interesting to listen to Karajan's recording of Strauss' Metamorphosen, made around the same time as those for that great/infamous 4LP Schönberg/Berg/Webern set.

We mustn't forget that Schönberg is essentially a conservative composer, e.g. the Variations op.31 nothing but a nice Brahms with some "wrong notes" (and her the recordings by Boulez, Karajan and Solti tell us some stories)

Lebrecht gives his opinion in one of his worthless books.

I think the notorious Karajan Second Viennese School set is a great introduction to this music for the wary. Once they've got used to it, they can then feel free to explore more 'politically correct' interpretations.

[Roehre]

Lebrecht gives his opinion in one of his worthless books.

I think the notorious Karajan Second Viennese School set is a great introduction to this music for the wary. Once they've got used to it, they can then feel free to explore more 'politically correct' interpretations.

In the late 1970s it was my introduction to the 2VS, within a month or so followed by Boulez' 4LP Webern set on CBS.

[Bryn]

Lebrecht gives his opinion in one of his worthless books. ... .

Are there others by him that are of worth?

[Beef Oven!]

A new composer to me - thanks ts

I listened to some on-line excerpts and was very impressed with what I heard, so I had to buy this disc.

Bought from Naxos Express. Can't wait!

[Beef Oven!]

Sessions - String Quartet & Quintet
Babbitt - Soli e Duetti
(following a chat with ahinton & fernie)

Penderecki - Piano Concerto & Flute Concerto

Joan Tower - Black Topaz

Charles Wuorinen - Fenton Songs, etc

and...............

[Jonathan]

Currently waiting for a book in the post - written by an old university friend of mine. It's called "The Talents" and the author is Carl McGarrigle. It's a fantasy novel but that's about all I know! He's also included me in the acknowledgements as a joke I told him 20 something years ago inspired something in his book. It's his first novel and is published via the website called lulu.com.

[Beef Oven!]

Currently waiting for a book in the post - written by an old university friend of mine. It's called "The Talents" and the author is Carl McGarrigle. It's a fantasy novel but that's about all I know! He's also included me in the acknowledgements as a joke I told him 20 something years ago inspired something in his book. It's his first novel and is published via the website called lulu.com.

[pastoralguy]

I'm waiting for the new Pat Kop Tchaikovsky violin concerto, the Janine Jansin Brahms and Bartok violin concerto and a Lisa della Casa cd. Seems to be taking ages to arrive. Mind you, I'm on night shift just now so music's not on the agenda just now.

I'm also still awaiting a replacement for Honeck's Beethoven 5 & 7 that was returned to Amazon between Christmas and New Year. Seems to be out of stock just now.

[Petrushka]

I'm waiting for the new Pat Kop Tchaikovsky violin concerto, the Janine Jansin Brahms and Bartok violin concerto and a Lisa della Casa cd. Seems to be taking ages to arrive. Mind you, I'm on night shift just now so music's not on the agenda just now.

I'm also still awaiting a replacement for Honeck's Beethoven 5 & 7 that was returned to Amazon between Christmas and New Year. Seems to be out of stock just now.

I ordered Honeck's Beethoven 5 & 7 on December 9 and am still waiting. Amazon report that it's 'temporarily out of stock' and I wonder if the problems with the CD mentioned by PG have forced the withdrawal of the recording for the time being? Does anyone know?

[Beef Oven!]

I ordered Honeck's Beethoven 5 & 7 on December 9 and am still waiting. Amazon report that it's 'temporarily out of stock' and I wonder if the problems with the CD mentioned by PG have forced the withdrawal of the recording for the time being? Does anyone know?

It's showing 'temporarily out of stock' from Amazon, but available from Amazon market traders. So it hasn't been withdrawn. Would seem it's just a supply issue.