What CD, book, DVD etc are you waiting for?

[teamsaint]

You got no class.

Just because I thought of it. Gongers has already done it, BTW, so it must be a good plan.

Actually I have a vaguely amusing story about contemporary music and composition techniques......if anybody is interested.....

[Beef Oven!]

Just because I thought of it. Gongers has already done it, BTW, so it must be a good plan.

Actually I have a vaguely amusing story about contemporary music and composition techniques......if anybody is interested.....

We're interested

[teamsaint]

Its not very classy though.....

Ok, so a professional music performer of high repute told me that she was engaged to play at a premiere of a composition ,at a large aquarium.

A group of string players were arranged in front of one of the giant glass screens, which had musical staves added. There was no score, and The musicians had to play notes as they saw fit, as the fish/ sharks/lobsters/ whatever moved behind and around the staves. No limits on pitch, rhythm, time limits, very free form, very trendy.
all well and good and very cool.

However,after a while, becuase there was no formal ending to the work, some of the players began to realise that , though the piece had no specific end point, parking in the centre's car park did, and as it began to dawn on them that they could all be stuck there for the night, they began to leave in an unplanned, and increasingly frantic way.
i think they all got out without incurring a nights B and B costs. Somehow a rather appropriate way to finish, though.

i wonder if the "composer "was one of our board chaps?

[MrGongGong]

Its not very classy though.....

Ok, so a professional music performer of high repute told me that she was engaged to play at a premiere of a composition ,at a large aquarium.

A group of string players were arranged in front of one of the giant glass screens, which had musical staves added. There was no score, and The musicians had to play notes as they saw fit, as the fish/ sharks/lobsters/ whatever moved behind and around the staves. No limits on pitch, rhythm, time limits, very free form, very trendy.
all well and good and very cool.

However,after a while, becuase there was no formal ending to the work, some of the players began to realise that , though the piece had no specific end point, parking in the centre's car park did, and as it began to dawn on them that they could all be stuck there for the night, they began to leave in an unplanned, and increasingly frantic way.
i think they all got out without incurring a nights B and B costs. Somehow a rather appropriate way to finish, though.

i wonder if the "composer "was one of our board chaps?

Sam Richards (Fish Music)

http://www.samrichards.org.uk/webdb/application/Application.php?&fwServerClass=Select&Query=TextSelect

(Though Sam would love that ending)

[teamsaint]

Sam Richards (Fish Music)

http://www.samrichards.org.uk/webdb/application/Application.php?&fwServerClass=Select&Query=TextSelect

(Though Sam would love that ending)

Thanks Gongers. That has to be it. I knew you'd know !!

I'd like to have heard the piece, especially having read the performance instructions.

[Anastasius]

.....

Actually, a piece devised / composed on random Bingo calls might work.
..
.

I thought most of all recent compositions were done in this way? Or a blank sheet of music and a fountain pen liberally shaken over the staves?

[MrGongGong]

I thought most of all recent compositions were done in this way? Or a blank sheet of music and a fountain pen liberally shaken over the staves?

Some (about 50 years ago)

[Roehre]

I thought most of all recent compositions were done in this way? Or a blank sheet of music and a fountain pen liberally shaken over the staves?

Soooo 18th C, look at Mozart's musical dices KV516f from 1787

[MrGongGong]

Soooo 18th C, look at Mozart's musical dices KV516f from 1787

and Duchamp's music
and
and


(actually the Mozart isn't a good example really but that's another riff)

[Roehre]

and Duchamp's music
and
and


(actually the Mozart isn't a good example really but that's another riff)

OK, but his Notturno KV286 is for four orchestras.
I knew Stockhausen nicked the idea of Gruppen from somewhere

[pastoralguy]

OK, but his Notturno KV286 is for four orchestras.
I knew Stockhausen nicked the idea of Gruppen from somewhere

If only Mozart had had access to helicopters...

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Some (about 50 years ago)

Quite!

"Staves" demonstrates a very traditionalist attitude.

[MrGongGong]

Quite!

"Staves" demonstrates a very traditionalist attitude.

Can one have a "blank sheet of music" anyway?

"A canvas is never empty"

Cage was right, get over it

[Beef Oven!]

Can one have a "blank sheet of music" anyway?

"A canvas is never empty"

Cage was right, get over it

[BBMmk2]

I have now Sir mark Elder's recording of the recent RVW cd they have made. Strongly recommended.