Consultation - The Lake District and Yorkshire Dales National Parks

[Guest]

If you would like to support the extension of boundaries to the Lake District and Yorkshire Dales National Parks, as I have done, you can do so easily here -

http://e-activist.com/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=21&ea.campaign.id=13412&ea.tracking.id=campaigns-update-enews&dm_i=6A4,OPH9,O8QAM,1ZS8Z,1

The closing date is 16 March 2012.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I've often wondered why this stretch of no-man's-land has been ignored for so long. The Lune Valley area is magnificent (apart from the presence of the M6).

[eighthobstruction]

thanks lateral....

[DracoM]

As one who is familiar with the area, can I urge members to be extremely careful here.
There are huge agricultural, social, future planning issues involved in this and it is NOT merely a question of tidying up a "stretch of no-man's-land" as so indelicately described above.

Sorry - but pretty miffed by insensitive posting.

[eighthobstruction]

It's for people to make up their own opinion....I'm searching for facts, trying to make up mine....surely R3forum members do not sign petitions just because they are there [or to cause incredible embarrassment to the govt]....

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

As one who is familiar with the area, can I urge members to be extremely careful here.
There are huge agricultural, social, future planning issues involved in this and it is NOT merely a question of tidying up a "stretch of no-man's-land" as so indelicately described above.

Sorry - but pretty miffed by insensitive posting.

Oh dear! I only meant that this region is often passed over because it is not in a national park. Wainwright spoke highly of it.

[Lateralthinking1]

Thank you for all the comments today.

My original post was worded in such a way as to be seen as an invitation. Because I believe in becoming involved in formal processes, whether that is likely to be effective or not, I do occasionally flag up initiatives that might be of wider interest.

I estimate that this happens about quarterly. For example, in the past year, there have been threads from me on the libraries, forestry and BBC local radio. Arguably there have been positive consequences in each case.

As a member of this forum and a host, I would not support one-sided promotions even of a campaigning nature. I therefore see these threads not only as a way of getting out a message but as a springboard for discussion.

Individual informed perspectives can be extremely helpful in enabling others to take effective decisions. So while I obviously particularly welcome comments in support of these objectives, I am also happy to see debate.

Hope that this doesn’t sound pompous and is helpful.

[Lateralthinking1]

You wait for one and two arrive at the same time. Letter received from my MP today:

...On 17 January 2012 Natural England made two orders to Defra which will vary the boundaries, increasing them in size. These orders will only take effect, however, if they are confirmed by Caroline Spelman. Your enthusiasm is noted and perhaps you might like to make representations directly to Defra by 16 March:

nwvariationorders@defra.gsi.gov.uk

....You will be pleased to hear that I am also fully supporting the proposals...

!!!!

[DracoM]

I think if you talk to the farming community, they may well tell you that the downside of being drawn into a national park is that all agricultural developments can be curtailed or stopped entirely, change of use is very tricky to negotiate, and most cost more to erect, take longer, have to undergo rigorous and often stultifying bureaucratic control, and that repairs to houses - particularly roofs, windows, and even to gardens, walls etc can become subject to park inspection and conservation control.

You need to be very careful in voting for this. Mere tidying of what looks like an anomaly is dangerously naive. The real winners are estate agents, because house / property prices inevitably rise, solicitors, craftsmen who have to be called in to do specialised renovations / builds.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Today, the two national parks were extended. I was in favour of the changes, but acknowledge that these are working areas, and not just recreational areas for tourists.

Here in North Yorkshire, potash mining is being increased, but in a way that tastefully screens most of the evidence of this development. National Parks need not prevent local industries.

[Serial_Apologist]

Today, the two national parks were extended. I was in favour of the changes, but acknowledge that these are working areas, and not just recreational areas for tourists.

Here in North Yorkshire, potash mining is being increased, but in a way that tastefully screens most of the evidence of this development. National Parks need not prevent local industries.

Whereas here, we just recycle out barbecue ashes by scattering them over the flower beds wherever needed.

(We haven't heard anything from Lateralthinking for quite a while now, have we?)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Whereas here, we just recycle out barbecue ashes by scattering them over the flower beds wherever needed.

(We haven't heard anything from Lateralthinking for quite a while now, have we?)

We have, but he's changed his ID.

[Lat-Literal]

Details are here:

http://www.yorkshiredales.org.uk/abo...dary-extension