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  • Stanley Stewart
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1071

    #91
    Thanks for the tip, vinteuil. I've now watched a DVD of "Rope" (1948) and, once again, re-iterate my regret that TV companies do not negotiate the rights for bonus material at the same time as the screening rights for the main feature. Admittedly, some bonus material is little more than promotional puffs but the 2002 32 mins feature, "Rope Uncoiled" has the authentic presence of actor/writer Hume Cronyn who did the initial treatment from Patrick Hamilton's play - late 1920s - and playwright Arthur Laurents, famous for his tart tongue, who did the final screenplay. Useful, too, to have contributions from Hitch's daughter, Patricia. Movie buffs may recall her appearance as the young victim in "Strangers On A Train" (1951) when her father filmed her strangulation through the lens of her fallen spectacles!

    To the point. Hitch does appear in the opening titles, quickly walking down the street, alongside the New York brownstone apartment block where the film is set. Unusually, there is no close-up, eg think of his bulky frame, carrying a cello, trying to board a greyhound bus, in "North by North West" (1959). However, we are told in the bonus item that he did intend to appear in the interior setting as part of a neon portrait but decided that it was too jokey. I assume he kept this idea for another play, "Dial M for Murder" (1954) where we saw him, clearly, as part of a group photograph.

    Arthur Laurents tells us that the biggest bugbear in writing the screenplay was the subject of homosexuality, anathema to the Breen Office censorship/Catholic Decency in 1948. Even dialogue, along the lines of "My dear boy..." was instantly blue-pencilled and, although the casting of James Stewart as the two protagonists uni professor was a canny ploy, the actor was also reserved about any implication of homosexuality, although the play did indicate an earlier relationship with one of the boys. Even worse, any suggestion about their s/m relationship was also given short shrift but Hitch had the nous to develop the action at several points to make this clear. And the 'Englishness' aspect which permeates the dialogue also fostered a sense of disharmony in an American situ. However, Hitchcock's technical proficiency - adored by the crew - and his talent for creating a gathering sense of pressure and unease, almost won the day. Laurents was adamant that Hitch's biggest mistake was to show the murder in the opening sequence, followed by the placing of the body in a chest, diffused the ensuing suspense as the audience should never be sure that there is a body there, until Rupert (the professor) lifts it open in the final act. As he said, the suspense surrounding the lid about to be opened is removed once the audience knows there is a body within.

    I did marvel at the ease and flexibility of the famous 10 minute "take"; the camera would then have to be re-loaded as the action of the film is continuous for 80 mins - it plays, in fact, in actual time; there can be no camera cuts or mixes. The ploy for re-loading was to focus on a player's back and freeze frame. The camera would then be loaded and, at the same time, the stage crew would even adjust the position of the clouds in the backdrop, or lessen the daylight as the narrative proceeded. The freeze-frame would then be released and the action continue on its earlier path - the same action as using a pause button on your DVD recorder. The whole first floor apartment setting was built on castors, so that the side walls - like the 'wings space' in a theatre could be removed to allow the camera flexibility without interrupting the action. This demanded high concentration from the cast as eight of them in the party scene had to move with the precision of the Tiller Girls. I noticed a tendency to place 2 or 3 of the main characters in the foreground but all concerned in the background action would have to be precisely on their marks - usually a strip on the floor with different colours for each character, or the composition would be messy. They would rehearse a 10 mins sequence for a day and return to shoot the scene. It must have been frustrating to complete a sequence with absolute proficiency, only to be told to stand-by for another complete take, if, say, the lighting had failed during the filming. Later, Hitch called the whole concept crazy and it has never been attempted again. The film was well reviewed but didn't have wide box office appeal. Yet Patrick Hamilton's "Gaslight" had been an enormous success in a 1939 English version with Diana Wynyard and Anton Walbrook. Typically, Hollywood saw its potential and bought the rights, ordered the negative to be destroyed and made an alternative version, in 1944, "Murder In Thornton Square, with Ingrid Bergman and Charles Boyer. A couple of decades later, a print was found and the original "Gaslight" - a much better film, directed by Thorold Dickinson - was restored, although I gather that legal disputes continued until a few years ago.

    Yeah, all a bit long-winded but I wanted to add my comments on a much neglected film.

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    • salymap
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5969

      #92
      One of the 'guests' was looking at this so read it through for ideas as, FIVE MONTHS later, we are still struggling a bit with the weather.

      Visitor tomorrow, on Friday I must get off these boards for a bit and watch a film. Bogart and Bacall or maybe 'State Fair'.

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      • JFLL
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 780

        #93
        The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp. Powell and Pressburger, I think, and interesting in that although made during WWII it has a sympathetic portrait of a German. Cracking performance by Roger Livesey, who I don't think I've seen in anything else.

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        • salymap
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5969

          #94
          Originally posted by JFLL View Post
          The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp. Powell and Pressburger, I think, and interesting in that although made during WWII it has a sympathetic portrait of a German. Cracking performance by Roger Livesey, who I don't think I've seen in anything else.
          He's in 'I know where I'm going', a very good film mentioned on this thread.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #95
            ... and wasn't he also in A Matter of Life & Death (another Powell & Pressberger)? And Laurence Olivier's father in The Entertainer?

            EDIT: Yes, he was! (Thank you, Wiki:



            ... and The League of Gentlemen, previously mentioned on this Thread.)
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11882

              #96
              The original " To Be or Not to Be " with Jack Benny - always has me in stitches .

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              • JFLL
                Full Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 780

                #97
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                ... and wasn't he also in A Matter of Life & Death (another Powell & Pressberger)? And Laurence Olivier's father in The Entertainer?

                EDIT: Yes, he was! (Thank you, Wiki:



                ... and The League of Gentlemen, previously mentioned on this Thread.)
                Thank you, saly and ferney, I think I have Life & Death and I Know where I'm Going on old videos somewhere, so will look them up. I never did see the famous Olivier Entertainer.

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22239

                  #98
                  Certainly not 'The Rain Man'!

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                  • gamba
                    Late member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 575

                    #99
                    Let us not forget Bill Forsyth's ' Local Hero.'

                    It never fails to provide me with an ' uplift ' reaching places other films never get.

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                    • umslopogaas
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1977

                      Since the weather is no longer depressing - its pleasantly cool and breezy here - I think I can be granted a student reminiscence. Back in Cambridge in the early 70s there was a cinema up in the backstreets of Chesterton (I think, my geographical memories are a bit hazy) called the Rex that ran a late night programme. The student population would spill out of the pubs full of beer and queue round the block (the queue for the gents was long, too). The programme I particularly recall was the Marx Brothers in 'Duck Soup' followed by Hammer's 'Dracula' with Peter Cushing as van Helsing and Christopher Lee as the Count. Just wonderful, I laughed so much at the Marx Bros. that my ribs hurt and during the famous mirror sequence I would have fallen out of my seat if I hadnt been sandwiched in so tight. And that scene in 'Dracula' when the Count comes downstairs to greet his guests, suave, impeccably dressed and fangs just out of sight as he purrs in a fair attempt at Transylvanian english, "goot eevenning".

                      One I never did see, but would very much like to, was W.C. Fields and Mae West in 'My Little Chickadee'. Fields is clearly very funny and a visual treat, though to english ears the pre-war sound track is a bit hard to follow. And Mae West is wonderful, that woman must have had springs in her heels. And the double entendres ... "You're a big guy Tex, how tall are you? I'm six feet eight inches, maam. My, never mind the six feet, let's talk about those eight inches." "Is that a pistol in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?" etc

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                      • Ferretfancy
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3487

                        Rain or Shine, these are always worth watching,

                        Singin' in the Rain

                        The Importance of Being Earnest ( Asquith )

                        Henry V ( Olivier )

                        The Third Man

                        Laurel and Hardy " Way Out west' and many others

                        All those marvellous 40s films noir such as The Big Sleep, too many to list!

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                        • JFLL
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 780

                          Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
                          ... Back in Cambridge in the early 70s there was a cinema up in the backstreets of Chesterton (I think, my geographical memories are a bit hazy) called the Rex that ran a late night programme. The student population would spill out of the pubs full of beer and queue round the block (the queue for the gents was long, too). The programme I particularly recall was the Marx Brothers in 'Duck Soup' ......
                          Duck Soup is definitely the Marx Bros. best, I'd say, followed closely by A Night at the Opera. Either would be perfect for cheering up purposes in a rotten summer. I remember the Rex well. As you say a great favourite with Cambridge students. There was also in the late 60s the Kinema, another flea-pit I think off Mill Road, which also showed Marx Bros. films. But we were horribly spoilt for good (and 'so bad they're good') films, what with the Arts Cinema and all the college film societies as well.

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                          • handsomefortune

                            Bill Forsyth's ' Local Hero.'

                            mr handsomefortune loves that film too gamba!

                            i am enjoying the reminiscences!

                            also the fascinating technical details in stanley stewart's contribution on hitch.

                            i think i'd like to watch miranda july's 'you me and everyone we know' again, or perhaps her more recent film.

                            imv always worth a watch is 'this film is not yet rated' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Film_Is_Not_Yet_Rated featuring john waters, not least as it puts breen/catholic decency into proper historical perspective.
                            Last edited by Guest; 19-07-12, 12:04.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37995

                              For sheer atmosphere, period, manners, and self-identification with the lead, "The Go-Between" every time

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                              • umslopogaas
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1977

                                #102, JFLL, I well remember The Kinema, it certainly looked like the sort of place where you could catch fleas. I saw Polanski's 'Repulsion' there, that really was a shocker, several people in the audience had to be escorted out before the end, suffering from extreme fright. The thought of Catherine Deneuve and her nail clippers still makes me flinch.

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