Princely platitudes on Parry

[Mr Pee]

Not at all, but Prince Charles is surely sincere about his love of Parry's music.

Why restrict the venom to Prince Charles? The BBC does this all the time. Maestro, of course; and Michael Portillo making programmes about train journeys.
And many more.

Exactly. At least HRH has a sincere love of Parry's music, unlike Portillo, who had most likely rarely been near a railway carriage until the BBC came along and waved a big fat cheque under his nose.

[mercia]

oh, to have more of the DON on R3.

is he less likely to say 'fabulous, fantastic and amazing' on the radio
(if I've understood that correctly)

[teamsaint]

Not at all, but Prince Charles is surely sincere about his love of Parry's music.

Why restrict the venom to Prince Charles? The BBC does this all the time. Maestro, of course; and Michael Portillo making programmes about train journeys.
And many more.

Although I called charles a clot, i never suggested , and don't believe that his love of Parry is anything other than sincere. and if he is going to promote something, it may as well be a decent composer. Other royals are do less "worthy" things, but thats another story !!
My comments were aimed at the bbc, who do indeed do this stuff all the time.

Its a service we pay for, and they spend a good chunk of it on nice activities for people who really don't need the opportunity, while others who do need and perhaps deserve the opportunity get frozen out.

[Ferretfancy]

That's assuming he wrote it himself. If he can have a flunky hold a specimen bottle for him to urinate into, I'm sure he can get someone to write his words for him.

I know from experience that he does write his words, as I've recorded him in the past, but he is always surrounded by"advisers" who watch him like a hawk, and seek to water down any awkward ideas that he may have. The result is pap, but he did hand out some nice sarnies !

[Flosshilde]

I know from experience that he does write his words, as I've recorded him in the past,

But recording him speaking the words does not prove that he actually wrote them! I suspect that they are his sentiments & ideas, but that he has people who knock them into reasonably coeherent form. I'd be interested to know how many re-takes or how much editing he needs, to remove the 'ums' & 'ers' & ramblings. For someone who's life is built on speaking in public he seems remarkably bad at it.

[Anna]

I'd be interested to know how many re-takes or how much editing he needs, to remove the 'ums' & 'ers' & ramblings. For someone who's life is built on speaking in public he seems remarkably bad at it.

Is his way of speaking, with the 'ums and 'ers basically that of someone who is painfully shy? That's the impression I get of him. (Also, I genuinely thought Portillo was a long-term railway enthusiast! Another illusion shattered ..)

[EdgeleyRob]

Just listening to Heffer 4 where the presenter claims without PC the British music loving population would not have realised Parry gave us I Was Glad - really?

[Mr Pee]

But recording him speaking the words does not prove that he actually wrote them! I suspect that they are his sentiments & ideas, but that he has people who knock them into reasonably coeherent form. I'd be interested to know how many re-takes or how much editing he needs, to remove the 'ums' & 'ers' & ramblings. For someone who's life is built on speaking in public he seems remarkably bad at it.

The same could be said of any number pf politicians and broadcasters. Very few of them write their own stuff, and even if they do it will almost certainly be edited and re-written before it is spoken in public. And from what I've heard of HRH's speeches, they are not full of rambles or hesitations. Perhaps you know him better that the rest of us Floozie, and know that in private that is the case.......

[Flosshilde]

Is his way of speaking, with the 'ums and 'ers basically that of someone who is painfully shy? That's the impression I get of him.

Possibly, but perhaps he should have had help with overcoming it, as his grandfather did with his speech impediment? Being shy & being a monarch aren't exactly compatible, are they?

(Also, I genuinely thought Portillo was a long-term railway enthusiast! Another illusion shattered ..)

I think he probably is, although I doubt that the BBC would have had him as a presenter (or accepted his pitch for the programmes) if he hadn't been a cabinet minister. He is also a Wagner enthusiast, & as he himself has said, it wasn't until he became a cabinet minister that his applications for the ticket ballot at Beyreuth were successful.

Which perhaps just shows that it's not what you know, or even who you know, that matters, but who you are.

[anotherbob]

I phoned the BBC the other day. I thought I'd like to do this programme about this composer chap whose music I quite like. They said they would get back to me... and I thought I heard someone laughing>

[teamsaint]

I phoned the BBC the other day. I thought I'd like to do this programme about this composer chap whose music I quite like. They said they would get back to me... and I thought I heard someone laughing>

main problem is the title..............yours, not the programme !!

[Ferretfancy]

But recording him speaking the words does not prove that he actually wrote them! I suspect that they are his sentiments & ideas, but that he has people who knock them into reasonably coeherent form. I'd be interested to know how many re-takes or how much editing he needs, to remove the 'ums' & 'ers' & ramblings. For someone who's life is built on speaking in public he seems remarkably bad at it.

Flosashilde

Well, if he doesn't write his own words, what was he doing writing and re-writing his script in front of me in the studio ? There were remarkably few 'ums' and 'ers', as it happened.

[Flosshilde]

Fair enough - that wasn't clear in your original post. However, when I have seen/heard (on the radio & TV) him speaking I haven't thought him verfy coherent. His ideas on topics like architecture are certainly not coherent!

[Mr Pee]

His ideas on topics like architecture are certainly not coherent!

By which you mean that you do not agree with them. Hardly the same thing........

[Simon]

His comments on architecture are extremely coherent, and probably would be supported by the majority of intelligent people in the country.

That they irritate talentless luvvies is unsurprising, but a bonus for most of us and yet another reason to rather like the fellow!