Music you've known about but never heard until recently

[Serial_Apologist]

I always have TTN on the radio alarm by my bed, and the other night I awoke to hear the finale of a violin sonata I had not prevously heard. By whom could this be, I asked myself: John Ireland?

It turned out to be Grieg's, his one essay in this form, I understand, and quite an early piece. Grieg is another of those composers who, with reference to later composers whom, admittedly, one would not think of as at the forefront of musical advance, was in certain aspects of his music ahead of his own time.

[vinteuil]

Massenet's 'Werther'... .

Werther - whether Goethe or Massenet - is for me irretrievably ruined by the marvellously awful poem by Thackeray.
If you don't want it ruined for you - look away now...

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WERTHER had a love for Charlotte
Such as words could never utter;
Would you know how first he met her?
She was cutting bread and butter.

Charlotte was a married lady,
And a moral man was Werther,
And for all the wealth of Indies
Would do nothing for to hurt her.

So he sigh’d and pin’d and ogled,
And his passion boil’d and bubbled,
Till he blew his silly brains out,
And no more was by it troubled.

Charlotte, having seen his body
Borne before her on a shutter,
Like a well-conducted person,
Went on cutting bread and butter.

[ahinton]

I always have TTN on the radio alarm by my bed, and the other night I awoke to hear the finale of a violin sonata I had not prevously heard. By whom could this be, I asked myself: John Ireland?

It turned out to be Grieg's, his one essay in this form, I understand, and quite an early piece. Grieg is another of those composers who, with reference to later composers whom, admittedly, one would not think of as at the forefront of musical advance, was in certain aspects of his music ahead of his own time.

Grieg wrote not just one but three sonatas for violin and piano (opp. 8, 13 & 45), by the way; he and Liszt went through the first of these on their first meeting and Liszt seems to have been impressed.

[amateur51]

Werther - whether Goethe or Massenet - is for me irretrievably ruined by the marvellously awful poem by Thackeray.
If you don't want it ruined for you - look away now...

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WERTHER had a love for Charlotte
Such as words could never utter;
Would you know how first he met her?
She was cutting bread and butter.

Charlotte was a married lady,
And a moral man was Werther,
And for all the wealth of Indies
Would do nothing for to hurt her.

So he sigh’d and pin’d and ogled,
And his passion boil’d and bubbled,
Till he blew his silly brains out,
And no more was by it troubled.

Charlotte, having seen his body
Borne before her on a shutter,
Like a well-conducted person,
Went on cutting bread and butter.

Many thanks vints!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Werther - whether Goethe or Massenet - is for me irretrievably ruined by the marvellously awful poem by Thackeray.

... would that be Jake?

And no more was by it troubled ... GENIUS!

[vinteuil]

... would that be Jake?

... hoo no; very much William Makepeace...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Makepeace_Thackeray

and not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Thackray

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[Nick Armstrong]

It appears my ignorance is thus of assistance to me in this case. I have not endangered it (my ignorance) by reading your nonetheless interesting post, vinchaud

[vinteuil]

It appears my ignorance is thus of assistance to me in this case. I have not endangered it (my ignorance) by reading your nonetheless interesting post, vinchaud

oh, these lawyers and their ambiguities! It's all a question of brackets, I suppose - was it a case of :

{I have not read} & therefore {have not been endangered by reading}

or {I have read} but { have not been endangered by reading}

To put it another way - was it a case of -

"I have not read it, and thereby have not endangered my ignorance"
"I have read it, but have not thereby endangered my ignorance"

[Nick Armstrong]

oh, these lawyers and their ambiguities! It's all a question of brackets, I suppose - was it a case of :

{I have not read} & therefore {have not been endangered by reading}

or {I have read} but { have not been endangered by reading}

To put it another way - was it a case of -

"I have not read it, and thereby have not endangered my ignorance"
"I have read it, but have not thereby endangered my ignorance"

The former!

Here's one, vindechampagne! Make a sentence out of these words:

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[vinteuil]

To
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In THIS weather!!!

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[Nick Armstrong]

In THIS weather!!!

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Good point

Keep reading

And keep 'em coming.....

[amateur51]

In THIS weather!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMsXvuz3Voc

Quite!

[Dave2002]

In THIS weather!!!

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While on sentence construction, can anyone make a sentence with five consecutive "and"s?

[Dave2002]

If you have access to iplayer try Webern: Langsamer Satz on Monday's Lunchtime Concert.

What did you make of this concert?
The Brahms was very different from what I normally expect. Very reflective. Perhaps ultimately I like more drive, at least towards the end, but the first movement was so different. Seemed a perfectly valid way to play it, and clearly very deliberate and thought out. Amazing that Fleischer made that come back.

OK - there were some minor errors, but what the heck! Very different from Pollini and the Italians (now incredibly cheap - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brahms-Piano.../dp/B000174LUC) which I also like a lot.

I recommend others to listen to this concert before it fades away. Maybe it'll emerge on Wigmore Hall Live - otherwise you have to either listen to it or figure out another way to keep it. Probably not my favourite version, but definitely a different way to play and definitely worth hearing.

[Mahlerei]

Just seen an Amazon review of Royal Ballet's Les Noces in which the piece is referred to as Les Nonces.

Freudian slip or what? :)