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[amateur51]

While on sentence construction, can anyone make a sentence with five consecutive "and"s?

I am confident that anyone could not write such a sentence but it might just be possible that someone could.

I have no idea who that someone might be

[amateur51]

Just seen an Amazon review of Royal Ballet's Les Noces referred to a Les Nonces.

Freudian slip or what? :)

That slip suits you, Mahlerei

[Nick Armstrong]

Just seen an Amazon review of Royal Ballet's Les Noces in which the piece is referred to as Les Nonces.

Freudian slip or what? :)

[Mahlerei]

That slip suits you, Mahlerei

You are too kind. Actually, I had you down as a Jung man...

[amateur51]

You are too kind. Actually, I had you down as a Jung man...

[Dave2002]

I am confident that anyone could not write such a sentence but it might just be possible that someone could.

I have no idea who that someone might be

Should I wait until tomorrow to see if anyone else can find a sentence?

[Flosshilde]

While on sentence construction, can anyone make a sentence with five consecutive "and"s?

Does it involve using 'hand' with a dropped 'h' - ie ''and'?

[teamsaint]

Does it involve using 'hand' with a dropped 'h' - ie ''and'?

pub signs is what is involved.

[gurnemanz]

If it's the versionI know you need more space between certain words in the pub sign.

Eleven consecutive "had"s are possible.

[jayne lee wilson]

I don't know, the things that go on here when I'm not around...
hands, pubs, bread and butter...?! Poor Werther must be looking for another bullet...

Last time I looked it was Szymanowski... I crammed in some listening today. No.2 and No.3 in the stunning Detroit SO/Dorati performances.
Having not heard No.2 for a few years I was newly amazed at how very Regerian it sounds, some passages could almost be transplanted! The Naxos booklet notes to the Antoni Wit readings by Keith Anderson also mention Skryabin's influence on it - a striking point I'd overlooked.
But it's still astonishing to leap forward a mere 5 years to the Song of the Night where his true, thrillingly distinctive voice casts its wonderful spell again. True too of the first Violin Concerto; as I said many posts ago here, these are the works in which Szymanowski evolved his own flowing, seamless forms to marvellous effect - and found himself. He even had time for one last evolutionary twist - the much greater rhythmic inventiveness of his late work like Harnasie and the 4th Symphony.

Of COURSE it's enjoyable and often fascinating to delve among the pages of early works, whether distinctive or not; ahinton was, as usual, right in his response to you following your comments about Stravinsky, who's certainly in the category of those whose musical signatures defined themselves early. You probably have to go back to the Symphony in E Flat to find an apprentice piece. It's amusing to recall that Stravinsky said that Glazunov's approval of it was a bad sign - he knew how derivative of him it was!

Re. the earlier fhg/roehre discussion of Stravinsky's serial pieces - Hans Keller once remarked that IS only composed this way once Schoenberg was dead...

Ah the perils of internet forum communication! JLW, when I said that Syzmanowski 2 reminded me of Zemlinsky I was actually thinking of the sound world of the Seejungfrau rather than either of the two symphonies; which are rather formulaic and dull, IMO. Apologies for not making myself clear on that point!



Following that reasoning, would you say, therefore, that "Firebird" or "Le Sacre" were immature Stravinsky? Surely not, yet they are very different from the quasi serial works of his latter years. Why say then that Szymanowski or Schoenberg in their later works showed them more "audibly themselves"? I agree that Szymanowski or Schoenberg (or Webern for that matter) changed styles, but this does not mean their early works weren't representative of themselves, at that particular point of their career.

[Bryn]

I am confident that anyone could not write such a sentence but it might just be possible that someone could.

I have no idea who that someone might be

Oh come on, every schoolboy knows about the sign-writer who needed to leave more space between each of the words when writing the sign for the Pig and Whistle. i.e. between the Pig and and and and and and and Whistle.

[Dave2002]

Oh come on, every schoolboy knows about the sign-writer who needed to leave more space between each of the words when writing the sign for the Pig and Whistle. i.e. between the Pig and and and and and and and Whistle.

Thanks Bryn. Saves this schoolboy from having to upload a file which I have tucked away with that solution.

Funny how it always seems to be the Pig and Whistle, which is exactly what I had in my file. Could just as well be the Cat and Fiddle, Cock and Bull, Dog and Duck, Dog and Fox, Dog and Gun, Dog and Partridge, Eagle and Child, Crown and Anchor, George and Dragon, Bull and Mouth, Larwood and Voce, King and Castle, Waggon and Horses.

Good health to you all!

[cloughie]

I don't know, the things that go on here when I'm not around...
hands, pubs, bread and butter...?! Poor Werther must be looking for another bullet...

That's an original comment!

[Dave2002]

If it's the versionI know you need more space between certain words in the pub sign.

Eleven consecutive "had"s are possible.

11 !!!!??

Do you mean "had" - or is that now a euphonism for "hand" or "and"?

Eleven consecutive words in a meaningful sentence seems hard to me.

[Dave2002]

I don't know, the things that go on here when I'm not around...
hands, pubs, bread and butter...?! Poor Werther must be looking for another bullet...

I only came back to see if anyone had listened to the Elias/Fleischer concert yet. Pub signs seem of more interest though.

I picked up interest in this concert because of the Langsamer Satz by Webern, mentioned earlier.

I"m sure there must be other reflective versions of the Brahms Piano Quintet (compared with Pollini et al), but until Elias/Fleischer I was unaware that it could be played in this way.
There are imperfections (both pianist and the quartet intonation/timing isn't always quite perfect), but I've revisited this a few times now.

I'd be interested to know if there are other performances in this kind of style.