The Decline Of Civilisation

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  • Paul Sherratt

    #16
    >>I wonder how much they spent coming up with that title!

    A BBC management committee considered options for several months at an estimated cost of £635,746.

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    • Paul Sherratt

      #17
      One sign of a declining civilisation is Saab ( cars ) going bankrupt.

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      • amateur51

        #18
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post

        I'll see Curalach's "Harrumph" and raise you all a couple of "Psshawww"s and a Gallic "Pffffffffffff!!!!!"

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        • Curalach

          #19
          Originally posted by Paul Sherratt View Post
          One sign of a declining civilisation is Saab ( cars ) going bankrupt.
          About 17 years ago I went to a Saab showroom in the west end of Glasgow to buy a new car. I knew the model I wanted and had no trade-in. The sales people were all congregated round a table drinking tea and chatting. After 15 minutes of being studiously ignored I left and went to a Volvo showroom where I bought a Volvo. I have been a Volvo man ever since and never regretted it.
          Sorry to see them go bust though.

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          • Paul Sherratt

            #20
            >>>The sales people were all congregated round a table drinking tea

            Now you hadn't wandered in to a hospital ward by mistake, had you ?


            But the same thing has happened to me ... well everyone I expect !

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26527

              #21
              Originally posted by Paul Sherratt View Post
              >>>The sales people were all congregated round a table drinking tea<<<

              But the same thing has happened to me ... well everyone I expect !

              No wonder they've gone bust...
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • kernelbogey
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5740

                #22
                Waldorf: That was wonderful!Statler: Bravo!Waldorf: I loved it!Statler: Ah, it was great!Waldorf: Well, it was pretty good.Statler: Well, it wasn't bad...Wal...

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30259

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                  The Presentation department at the BBC used to be a small unit which occupied itself with simple programme links. Unfortunately as its budget has grown it has become a powerful force which can disregard the wishes of the programme makers themselves. I remember how directors would fume when their carefully designed end credits were ripped apart by oafish announcements, and now it is completely out of control.
                  Not quite 'out of control'. In fact it is tightly controlled by the BBC who give instructions to indie producers that they should not have any significant audio at the end of a programme that will prevent the BBC inserting their voiceover adverts before viewers have had a chance to turn off.

                  This a BBC blog which has me laughing (perhaps it will cheer up the grumps, just briefly, I mean briefly if ruefully) at how the BBC carries out research with a hidden agenda to prove that what they want to do (e.g. here push the BRAND with Digital Online Graphics - DOGs) is what the public wants, really.

                  I liked particularly post no 20:

                  "To summarise the actual quote from the MORI poll research findings 'Once we had introduced the idea of DOGs, 52% agreed that logos are helpful for identifying the channel'.

                  Translated, this means that 'even if you find the DOG intrusive (17%), irritating (33%) or distracting (40%), once you have been annoyed by say the BBC4 logo and had your eye drawn to it, then it still nonetheless informs you that you are watching BBC4 and ergo it is useful in this regard'.

                  The Marketing Department is going to use this survey for years to come to justify continuation of the status quo and in particular the claim that only a small percentage of people (11%) both don’t like them in principle and don’t find them useful.

                  What they should be asking is not are they useful?, but are they necessary?"
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • amateur51

                    #24
                    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                    Aren't they just the BEST?!

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                    • Paul Sherratt

                      #25
                      >>>Aren't they just the BEST?!

                      Quite good, yes.

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12801

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Paul Sherratt View Post
                        >>>Aren't they just the BEST?!

                        Quite good, yes.
                        well, they're not bad...

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                        • Flosshilde
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          #27
                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          well, they're not bad...
                          Well, OK I suppose.

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                          • vinteuil
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12801

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                            Well, OK I suppose.

                            well, I wouldn't say they were that good...

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                            • amateur51

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                              Well, OK I suppose.
                              I love you guys

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                              • Flosshilde
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7988

                                #30
                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                well, I wouldn't say they were that good...

                                Better than most, though.




                                (btw, who are we talking about?)

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