The Guardian RIP?

[Mr Pee]

Sceptred promontory these days, surely? (and I wonder if "sceptred" should read "septic", too)...

Still an island last time I checked.

[vinteuil]

Still an island last time I checked.

no, I don't think "England" is an island, whatever Shakespeare thought. It could be described as a promontory (of Wales or Scotland) if you like...

[greenilex]

Don't you think someone will invent a digital newspaper reader which can be folded into a pocket? And it'll be flavour of the month until we realise it costs £20 per issue and expires after 22 and a half editions?

[VodkaDilc]

When, rather than if, The Guardian leads the way to online only newspapers has anyone calculated the rise in the unemployment rate - printers, distributors, newsagents, paper boys/girls/ladies/men (very popular job for the early retired in this area) and so on?

(Having bought a Telegraph to supplement my morning Guardian yesterday, The G is seeming decidedly lightweight this morning. Telegraph definitely has more beef! I even find myself preferring the more traditional language of the Telegraph. It's only now that lines like 'So the polls are broadly right. And today's poll is right. Better get used to it.' in The Guardian leader have begun to sound too trendy and conversational. I feel my farewell process to the G has begun - though I will miss Jackie Ashley and Estelle Morris.)

[Globaltruth]

Something about paper

Yes, there is such a thing as electronic paper,but I don't think the technology is quite there yet in terms of matching the ordinariness of paper

http://www2.parc.com/hsl/projects/gyricon/

there are also other solutions than Gyricon (such a reassuringly modern sounding name).
will it ever be adopted into mainstream consumer usage? Probably when you can scrunch it up and/or drop it into the bath without harm.

I had a lengthy discussion with someone at the Guardian (probably a digital editor) when the electronic version first came out.
What I wanted to do was select specific sections of the paper then, when I switched my computer on, to be able to have an option to print them out at home (or not).
This was deemed by then completely impractical at the time and they were vehement it would never be an option - yet is now possible quite simply in a manual way.

Except I never bother, just read it online.

And also read bits of The T.Graph, the Indie...What is missing is the serendipitous news you receive when you buy a whole newspaper.

[antongould]

I have completed the on-line survey I was sent today - after consultation with Lady Gould I have slammed the changes.

[Old Grumpy]

Just checked out the "i" today - not bad, I suppose, but I do prefer the Graun (even as currently constituted). The Telegraph has reasonable news coverage, I find, as long as you can avoid the more toxic editorial.

I find the Berliner format the most pleasing to read - it is not a tabloid, but is not as unwieldy as a broadsheet - increasing presbyopia and varifocals do not help!

[VodkaDilc]

I have completed the on-line survey I was sent today - after consultation with Lady Gould I have slammed the changes.

Ditto.

I thought they identified the main objections quite well - they must have had plenty of complaints.

[VodkaDilc]

Just checked out the "i" today - not bad, I suppose, but I do prefer the Graun (even as currently constituted). The Telegraph has reasonable news coverage, I find, as long as you can avoid the more toxic editorial.

I find the Berliner format the most pleasing to read - it is not a tabloid, but is not as unwieldy as a broadsheet - increasing presbyopia and varifocals do not help!

I am afraid I ditch the varifocals and go back to reading glasses to tackle the papers. Varifocals are OK doing seeing most things moderately well - not for serious reading and certainly not for reversing in the car.

[VodkaDilc]

Today's Guardian has a return of the more detailed weather forecast, including the next five days. Perhaps they really are prepared to reconsider the drastic changes.

[Aubade]

Just to warn VodkaDilc that the Torygraph is mainly naughty vicars, love triangle murders and pet killer was sex addict, etc. The faithful are deserting in droves. However still probably preferable to having to read The Guardian with a clothes peg for La Toynbee and the socio- and political bits.

[VodkaDilc]

The faithful are deserting in droves. However still probably preferable to having to read The Guardian with a clothes peg for La Toynbee and the socio- and political bits.

So where are deserting Telegraph readers going?

One interesting snippet from today's Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/ga...rends-pictures You might need to click back to picture 13

- newspapers a key fashion accessory next season. So paper-loving screen-haters like me are in style.

[Old Grumpy]

So where are deserting Telegraph readers going?

Anyone for the Times?


No, I thought not.

OG

[gurnemanz]

So where are deserting Telegraph readers going?

In my dear father's case, aged 95, to the Elysian Fields.

[Chris Newman]

The Times? Staff at my local WHSmith&Co offer it to me free when I buy a magazine. Desperation?