The Guardian RIP?

[ahinton]

Apologies to Tom Service for attributing the VPO quote to him in Message 28 as it was actually from Andrew Clements.

So it must have been wrong, then and included a surfeit of adverbs, yes? (actually, AC is right sometimes but more often than not DC).

TS had written a page on the Kronos and AC a page of record reviews. I suppose the page setters are still finding their way round the different layout as the acknowledgement for AC was very tiny at the end of the second page of what looked to my aged eyes like almost continuous TS.

As in "normal Service didn't even require resumption", do you mean?

It is all rather like the good old pre-computer days when The Graudian/Grauniad was famous for typos. I miss the days when Ted Greenfield and Neville Cardus used to phone in their reviews from the foyer of the RFH: we had some wonderful bloopers... "Beethoven's Erotica Symphony", "Purcell's Come ye sons o fart" and "Brittens Lazy Luminations" stick in the mind.

I recall those and waited in vain at the time for Berlioz's Some Funny Fanta Stick, Boulez's Please, Alone, Plea and Struck Tours, Berg's Wot th'eck and and Bruckner's Tedium.

[ahinton]

Shouldn't this thread read "The Guardian: RPI"?

[Flosshilde]

It was certainly easier before to dispatch the Sport section straight into the recycling bin unopened - along with the Wednesday Society section, or whatever it was called. (Writing it now, it sounds like something from The Lady, but it was much different!)

Agreed about the sports bit, but I found the Society supplement very interesting. I often felt that some of the articles should be in the main section; well, now they are, but unfortunately still 'ghettoised'.

I'm pleased the Friday G2 still has 'Lost in Showbiz' - sort of an anti OK or Hello. I'm disappointed that the reviews of new films are reduced (not that I go to many). If they need to save space, surely all the pop stuff & reviews of computer games (especially that) could go on the website - that's where the target audience will be reading the paper - & leave more print space for us old fogies.

[teamsaint]

I suppose in these dark times that the press may yet have some role to perform in saving us all from authoritarian bank -led supranational government. However, I stopped believing most of what is printed when I discovered that it was entirely possible that any given piece was entirely ficticious, and in any case quite probably "placed"by a government dept, or some other liar.

[VodkaDilc]

Bliss! The Saturday Guardian has arrived in all its glory and many sections. I suppose the vandals will get round to cutting it eventually, but I am making the most of it today. I can even read about tomorrow's weather - and the next five days. (Can be summarised by 'much the same!')

[Mr Pee]

I can even read about tomorrow's weather - and the next five days. (Can be summarised by 'much the same!')

I hate to break it to you, Vodka, but most newspapers carry a weather forecast these days......

[VodkaDilc]

I hate to break it to you, Vodka, but most newspapers carry a weather forecast these days......

Except The Guardian (weekdays) which has today's forecast but no advance details. In the past there was a 5 day preview. Just one of the many cuts in The new look Guardian.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Incidentally I agreed with Tom Service saying that status of The Vienna Philharmonic is confirmed as "the world's overrated orchestra".

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[amateur51]

Except The Guardian (weekdays) which has today's forecast but no advance details. In the past there was a 5 day preview. Just one of the many cuts in The new look Guardian.

What on earth is the use of a five-day weather preview to most readers?

[Ferretfancy]

amateur51

It's really odd, newspapers and TV channels feel forced to change the style of their weather forecasts from time to time, and nearly always make a hash of it.

My current pet hate is the new forecast at the end of the Channel 4 News, where the forecaster assumes a relentlessly cheery sing song while pointing at a map which is virtually unreadable, covered as it is with vague swirls of cloud. Give up, I suppose, and always carry an umbrella.

[Mr Pee]

What on earth is the use of a five-day weather preview to most readers?

Well, as a cyclist I find it quite useful to have a quick indication of what I might be facing in the week ahead. The Sunday Times also prints a weekly forecast and that is a good general guide. Of course, as the week progresses I tend to use the web for more up to date information. Or for ultimate reliability, look out of the window.

I must say I don't really understand your point. Surely it's more useful to print a five day forecast than not? Just because you don't find it useful doesn't mean it shouldn't be there.

[Don Petter]

My current pet hate is the new forecast at the end of the Channel 4 News, where the forecaster assumes a relentlessly cheery sing song while pointing at a map which is virtually unreadable, covered as it is with vague swirls of cloud. Give up, I suppose, and always carry an umbrella.

Why do the TV weather forecasters all seem to use a strange s-l-o-w t-h-e s-p-e-e-c-h r-i-g-h-t d-o-w-n and then suddenlyspeeditallupagain sequence of delivery?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Why do the TV weather forecasters all seem to use a strange s-l-o-w t-h-e s-p-e-e-c-h r-i-g-h-t d-o-w-n and then suddenlyspeeditallupagain sequence of delivery?

A rotter on the autocue?

[VodkaDilc]

What on earth is the use of a five-day weather preview to most readers?

What a strange question! Which day shall I mow the lawn, stay in and rearrange my CD collection, clean my car (not the day before the promised thunderstorm), play golf (not in my case, but perhaps for some people) and so on. Doesn't some knowledge of future weather trends help in making such decisions?

[ahinton]

Why do the TV weather forecasters all seem to use a strange s-l-o-w t-h-e s-p-e-e-c-h r-i-g-h-t d-o-w-n and then suddenlyspeeditallupagain sequence of delivery?

Beacuse they regard Robert Peston as some kind of hero?