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  • ahinton
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    • Nov 2010
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    #46
    Originally posted by Norfolk Born View Post
    By "accessible", I guess I meant written so as to attract the musically untrained, but slightly adventurous, among us - tuneful without being trivial. I suspect that Ferretfancy may have also understood the word in that sense.
    Well, there are quite a few possible and equally valid - uses of the term in a contxt such as this, as I'm sure you, Ferret fancy and others would agree (or at least I hope that you all would!) yet, in the particular sense that you pur forward here, its degree of "accessibility" can surely only be of concern to - and measurable by - the ears of each individual beholder.

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    • ahinton
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      • Nov 2010
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      #47
      Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
      is it any good?
      Much as it is said to be rude to answer a question with another question, I feel bound (without any intent to be rude) to do so here by asking the same of you.

      Anyway, changing the subject (or rather turning it on its head), here's one for you all (that's been aired previously, I know, but not to worry). Tippett - Symphony No. 3: nice title - shame about the piece (or most of it, anyway)....

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
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        #48
        Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
        One work which definitely fits the criterion is that drawn from Rossini's "Peches de ma vieillesse": roughly translated as follows: "Radishes, Anchovies, Pickles and Butter Themes and Variations". A tasty morsel but a mouthful to say.
        And here a like title to a David Bedford brass ensemble composition from 1971:

        "Pancakes with Butter, Maple Syrup and Bacon, and the TV Weathermen"

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        • Richard Tarleton

          #49
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          And here a like title to a David Bedford brass ensemble composition from 1971:

          "Pancakes with Butter, Maple Syrup and Bacon, and the TV Weathermen"
          From the same stable as Star Clusters, Nebulae and Places in Devon

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #50
            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
            From the same stable as Star Clusters, Nebulae and Places in Devon
            From the same erole (Bristol vernacular)

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            • Bryn
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              • Mar 2007
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              #51
              Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
              I rather thought that this thread mentioned works which were very accessible, but unfortunately titled --- does the Sorabji fit the description
              I have a recording of a fine performance of Sorabji's Sequentia Cyclica super Dies Iræ ex Missa pro Defunctis in Clavicembali usum playing here as I type. As it happens the recording is of a performance attended by at least two contributors here.

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              • Panjandrum

                #52
                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                Much as it is said to be rude to answer a question with another question, I feel bound (without any intent to be rude) to do so here by asking the same of you.

                Anyway, changing the subject (or rather turning it on its head), here's one for you all (that's been aired previously, I know, but not to worry). Tippett - Symphony No. 3: nice title - shame about the piece (or most of it, anyway)....
                Hardly a glowing endorsement - so I'll take it as a "no" then in answer to my question?

                BTW, in what sense, do you mean "am (I) any good (sic)? In the christian sense? In a moral sense? In the sense of being adept at any particular activity?

                You really need to make yourself clearer, ahinton!

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                • PatrickOD

                  #53
                  Well, if ahinton can turn the subject on its head, so can I. I give you a piece that has a wonderful title and is a joy to listen to:

                  The Big Turtle Fanfare from the South China Sea

                  The title is nearly as long as the piece which lasts 37 seconds. Accessible? Not half!

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                  • Norfolk Born

                    #54
                    To turn the subject truly on its head, would you not need to nominate a piece with an attractive title that is in fact unlistenable to or at least incapable of generating joy in the listener?

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                    • Boilk
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #55
                      How about a post which is actually relevant to this thread's title?

                      I'm not sure I'd call the folliwng pieces necessarily "nice" but the titles are, as is the tendency with Mr. Adams , shamelessly bl**dy attention seeking... but in many cases they've done the job of fast-tracking the work into the repertoire and hauling in audiences.

                      My Father Knew Charles Ives
                      I Was Looking at the Ceiling and Then I Saw the Sky
                      Short Ride in a Fast Machine
                      Hallelujah Junction
                      Hoodoo Zephyr
                      The Gospel According to the Other Mary
                      Naive and Sentimental Music
                      Lollapalooza

                      Faced with the choice of attending a concert of Symphoy No.3 or Lollapalooza, what do you think most (especially younger) people would choose to attend?

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                      • ahinton
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                        Hardly a glowing endorsement - so I'll take it as a "no" then in answer to my question?
                        That's up to you.

                        Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                        BTW, in what sense, do you mean "am (I) any good (sic)? In the christian sense? In a moral sense? In the sense of being adept at any particular activity?
                        Again, that's for you to decide, if you wish, once you've inserted the missing closing inverted commas after your "(sic)?"

                        Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                        You really need to make yourself clearer, ahinton!
                        I have now, even if I hadn't previously!

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                        • ahinton
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Boilk View Post
                          How about a post which is actually relevant to this thread's title?

                          I'm not sure I'd call the folliwng pieces necessarily "nice" but the titles are, as is the tendency with Mr. Adams , shamelessly bl**dy attention seeking... but in many cases they've done the job of fast-tracking the work into the repertoire and hauling in audiences.

                          My Father Knew Charles Ives
                          The problem here is that, as the composer himself has readily admitted, his father did not know Charles Ives as did, for example, Elliott Carter's father.

                          Originally posted by Boilk View Post
                          Faced with the choice of attending a concert of Symphoy No.3 or Lollapalooza, what do you think most (especially younger) people would choose to attend?
                          Presuming you to mean the Symphony No. 3 by the otherwise often excellent Michael Tippett, the answer to your question is that I have no idea and not much concern either.
                          Last edited by ahinton; 19-01-12, 22:49.

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                          • Panjandrum

                            #58
                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            The problem here is that, as the composer himself has readily admitted, his father did not know Charles Ives as did, for example, Elliott Carter's father.


                            Presuming you to mean the Symphony No. 3 by the otherwise often excellent Michael Tippett, the answer to your question is that I have no idea and not much concern either.
                            Ahinton you need to work on your multi-quoting. I am afraid you give me undeserved credit for attributing these words to me. Try friend Boilk.

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                            • ahinton
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                              Ahinton you need to work on your multi-quoting. I am afraid you give me undeserved credit for attributing these words to me. Try friend Boilk.
                              Only some of them - now corrected; no idea how that occurred.

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                              • Boilk
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                                • Dec 2010
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                                Presuming you to mean the Symphony No. 3 by the otherwise often excellent Michael Tippett, the answer to your question is that I have no idea and not much concern either.
                                Actually "Symphony No.3" was entirely at random (or else totally subconscious) ... I chose a low number because youngish symphonists these days don't write that many.

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