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  • ahinton
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    • Nov 2010
    • 16122

    #31
    Trois morceaux en forme de poire must have been conceived well before the term pear-shaped assumed it current connotation (at least in certain English speaking countries), but it did once provide an incentive to me to title a piano study based on combining Chopin's three études in A minor Étude en forme de Chopin.

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    • Pabmusic
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      • May 2011
      • 5537

      #32
      I've tried to avoid quoting Percy Grainger (just too easy!) but I can't resist Arrival Platform Humlet, from In A Nutshell. I was introduced to this at university in 1972, rather late in the evening. It took several days to realise that it means 'a little something you hum while waiting for a train'.

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      • Panjandrum

        #33
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Debussy's "Et la lune descend sur le temple qui fut".

        Poor temple!
        Rather poetic I always thought: "And the moon goes down on the ruined temple". Great stuff.

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        • 3rd Viennese School

          #34
          Never bought or intentionally heard this cause of the title (I have heard it by accident though)

          Ravel Mother Goose.

          It sounds so, well, you know.

          3VS

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12242

            #35
            There is a 3 minute march from the pen of Johann Strauss long-windedly titled Kaiser Franz Josef I Rettungs-Jubel Marsch Op 126.

            Josef Strauss' delightful waltz, Dynamiden was originally titled Geheime Anziehungskrafte.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Flosshilde
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              #36
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              Josef Strauss' delightful waltz, Dynamiden [/I].
              Any connection to Dyno Rod?

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              • Pabmusic
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                • May 2011
                • 5537

                #37
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                Josef Strauss' delightful waltz, Dynamiden was originally titled Geheime Anziehungskrafte.
                Yes indeed. The waltz was for an Engineers' Ball and Josef called it 'The Secret Power of Magnetism'. A degree of pressure was applied along the lines of "You can't give a waltz such an unromantic title", and so Josef changed it to Dynamos - a great riposte.

                By the way, Richard Strauss lifted the beginning of the first waltz for use in Rosenkavalier - quite intentionally.

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37641

                  #38
                  Surely one of the most unweildy of titles for a composition has to be that of Diana Burrell, for her 1992 string orchestral piece, "Das Meer, das so gross unt weit ist, da wimmelt's ohne Zahl, grosse und kleine Tiere".

                  There probably are longer titles.......

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                  • ahinton
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Surely one of the most unweildy of titles for a composition has to be that of Diana Burrell, for her 1992 string orchestral piece, "Das Meer, das so gross unt weit ist, da wimmelt's ohne Zahl, grosse und kleine Tiere".

                    There probably are longer titles.......
                    Sure there are - but then, just as the work bearing the one that you quote almost always gets abbreviated to Das Meer, so does Sorabji's Sequentia Cyclica super Dies Iræ ex Missa pro Defunctis in Clavicembali usum get abbrevated to Sequentia Cyclica and his Fantasiettina sul nome illustre dell'egregio poeta Christopher Grieve ossia Hugh M'Diarmid to Fantasiettina, for obvious reasons of practicality.

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                    • Ferretfancy
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3487

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                      Sure there are - but then, just as the work bearing the one that you quote almost always gets abbreviated to Das Meer, so does Sorabji's Sequentia Cyclica super Dies Iræ ex Missa pro Defunctis in Clavicembali usum get abbrevated to Sequentia Cyclica and his Fantasiettina sul nome illustre dell'egregio poeta Christopher Grieve ossia Hugh M'Diarmid to Fantasiettina, for obvious reasons of practicality.
                      I rather thought that this thread mentioned works which were very accessible, but unfortunately titled --- does the Sorabji fit the description

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                      • Panjandrum

                        #41
                        One work which definitely fits the criterion is that drawn from Rossini's "Peches de ma vieillesse": roughly translated as follows: "Radishes, Anchovies, Pickles and Butter Themes and Variations". A tasty morsel but a mouthful to say.

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                        • ahinton
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16122

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                          I rather thought that this thread mentioned works which were very accessible, but unfortunately titled --- does the Sorabji fit the description
                          That depends upon what you or anyone else might describe as "accessible". As far as the scores are concerned, each is available as a typeset edition (the latter published by Bardic Edition) and each is supplied by The Sorabji Archive (see www.sorabji-archive.co.uk), the former also in copy ms. form. As to availability to listen, the former, premièred by English pianist Jonathan Powell in Glasgow in 2010, has yet to be commercially recorded and the latter has been performed on quite a few occasions by several pianists and recorded by two of them of which the recommended one is by Ronald Stevenson (who also prepared the aforementioned edition published by Bardic). The former is an immense piece, but the latter plays for less than five minutes. I think that this should answer your question about "accessibility" but, if not, then please tell me what else you need to know.

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                          • Norfolk Born

                            #43
                            By "accessible", I guess I meant written so as to attract the musically untrained, but slightly adventurous, among us - tuneful without being trivial. I suspect that Ferretfancy may have also understood the word in that sense.

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                            • Panjandrum

                              #44
                              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                              That depends upon what you or anyone else might describe as "accessible"... I think that this should answer your question about "accessibility" but, if not, then please tell me what else you need to know.
                              is it any good?
                              Last edited by Guest; 18-01-12, 18:30.

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                #45
                                Oh no, panjan: there is a lot of "accessible" Music that is "no good".
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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