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  • Lateralthinking1

    How Obama won - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20240375

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    • Flosshilde
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7988

      I wasted £1.20 on the Guardian today before I realised it 24 pages - 24 pages - on the USA elections!

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25235

        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
        I wasted £1.20 on the Guardian today before I realised it 24 pages - 24 pages - on the USA elections!
        their racing tips are useless too !!

        Other papers are available, Floss, and they have offers...the Western Daily Press often have a "free sausage roll or minced beef pasty" token. Yum. Much less than £1.20, and none of that "right on" lefty nonsense.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • Mandryka

          There seems to be a lot of deluded ballyhooing on the part of leftists and liberals over Obama's re-election.

          Yesterday, I saw two Americans - one a 'socialist' senator from Vermont and a blogger for something call the Daily Beast - talking about how significant it all was, although the 'socialist' (the inverted commas are mine) was mildly critical.

          They seem blind to the fact that basically Obama is about as left-wing as a moderate British Tory MP. So, all they can properly 'celebrate' is what has been avoided.

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          • Flosshilde
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7988

            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            Other papers are available, Floss, and they have offers...the Western Daily Press often have a "free sausage roll or minced beef pasty" token. Yum. Much less than £1.20, and none of that "right on" lefty nonsense.
            The Evening Times in Glasgow has enticing offers too - sometimes as lavish as a packet of crisps, or a pocket pack of tisues!

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25235

              Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
              The Evening Times in Glasgow has enticing offers too - sometimes as lavish as a packet of crisps, or a pocket pack of tisues!

              I love those offers.....i bet circulation soars on a "free salt and vinegar " night...tissues handy in those cold climes too !
              The WDP don't seem to cater to those hungry for both news and a veggie/organic snack....
              I am also of the opinion that free flexidiscs would boost sales too , in a retro kind of way....

              Anyway ,back to page 22 of the US election results...........
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • Flosshilde
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                The ET is still sold from news-stands. Sometimes you see a van park, the back doors open, & the news-stands are unloaded & wheeled into place on the street. I couldn't swear that the rather whizened old men (probably not as old as they look) who sell thye papers aren't unloaded from the back of the van as well.

                World recession hits North Pole! Oh well I guess that's that for this Christmas... Glasgow Evening Times newsstand, Central Station, 18th December 2008 (Taken in a hurry while trying to catch a train - apologies for blurriness)

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                • Lateralthinking1

                  Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                  I wasted £1.20 on the Guardian today before I realised it 24 pages - 24 pages - on the USA elections!
                  Yes, I am not going to draw it out. I promised to take it up again on my return and have enjoyed it but there won't be a weekly 'Letter from America'. In any case, in (probably) less than ten months time, there are elections to the 18th Bundestag.

                  Polls determined by Germany's major polling agencies Allensbach, Emnid, Forsa, Forschungsgruppe Wahlen, GMS and Infratest Dimap suggest that, were the next election to take place in November 2012, Chancellor Merkel's CDU/CSU would be the leading party with about 37.9% share of the vote. The Social Democrats would reach about 28.7%, the Greens 13.5%, the Left 7.0%, Pirate Party 4.5% and the Free Democratic Party about 3.9% of the votes cast (other parties: 4.5%).

                  Every poll suggests that neither CDU/CSU and FDP nor SPD and Greens, partners in the 1998–2005 Schröder government, would have a majority of seats. I can sense the excitement building across Britain already.
                  Last edited by Guest; 08-11-12, 22:51.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37886

                    Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                    Yes, I am not going to draw it out. I promised to take it up again on my return and have enjoyed it but there won't be a weekly 'Letter from America'. In any case, in (probably) less than ten months time, there are elections to the 18th Bundestag.

                    Polls determined by Germany's major polling agencies Allensbach, Emnid, Forsa, Forschungsgruppe Wahlen, GMS and Infratest Dimap suggest that, were the next election to take place in November 2012, Chancellor Merkel's CDU/CSU would be the leading party with about 37.9% share of the vote. The Social Democrats would reach about 28.7%, the Greens 13.5%, the Left 7.0%, Pirate Party 4.5% and the Free Democratic Party about 3.9% of the votes cast (other parties: 4.5%).

                    Every poll suggests that neither CDU/CSU and FDP nor SPD and Greens, partners in the 1998–2005 Schröder government, would have a majority of seats. I can sense the excitement building across Britain already.
                    There's nothing like murk for getting one excited! Or perhaps that should be Merk. They are important of course, but for now I can't get past thinking Frau Angela should do something about her dress sense.

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                    • anotherbob
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1172

                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      ...but for now I can't get past thinking Frau Angela should do something about her dress sense.
                      Oh dear....

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                      • Demetrius
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 276

                        Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View Post
                        Yes, I am not going to draw it out. I promised to take it up again on my return and have enjoyed it but there won't be a weekly 'Letter from America'. In any case, in (probably) less than ten months time, there are elections to the 18th Bundestag.

                        Polls determined by Germany's major polling agencies Allensbach, Emnid, Forsa, Forschungsgruppe Wahlen, GMS and Infratest Dimap suggest that, were the next election to take place in November 2012, Chancellor Merkel's CDU/CSU would be the leading party with about 37.9% share of the vote. The Social Democrats would reach about 28.7%, the Greens 13.5%, the Left 7.0%, Pirate Party 4.5% and the Free Democratic Party about 3.9% of the votes cast (other parties: 4.5%).

                        Every poll suggests that neither CDU/CSU and FDP nor SPD and Greens, partners in the 1998–2005 Schröder government, would have a majority of seats. I can sense the excitement building across Britain already.

                        The Szenarios for that election
                        Merkel wins (most likely) and takes Social Democrats as partners (no others available) ... almost no changes to policy, none at all to foreign policy
                        Steinbrueck wins and takes CDU as partners ... almost no changes to policy, none at all to foreign policy
                        Steinbrueck wins and takes Greens as partners in a freak accident ... marginal changes to policy, almost no changes to foreign policy
                        Steinbrueck wins and takes Greens and Left as partners ... all hell brakes loose, therefor it won't ever happen

                        basically, nothing will happen

                        If any sane British person builds up even a marginal interest in the procedings of that election, he or she ought to be pretty bored to begin with.

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                        • Lateralthinking1

                          Originally posted by Demetrius View Post
                          The Szenarios for that election
                          Merkel wins (most likely) and takes Social Democrats as partners (no others available) ... almost no changes to policy, none at all to foreign policy
                          Steinbrueck wins and takes CDU as partners ... almost no changes to policy, none at all to foreign policy
                          Steinbrueck wins and takes Greens as partners in a freak accident ... marginal changes to policy, almost no changes to foreign policy
                          Steinbrueck wins and takes Greens and Left as partners ... all hell brakes loose, therefor it won't ever happen

                          basically, nothing will happen

                          If any sane British person builds up even a marginal interest in the procedings of that election, he or she ought to be pretty bored to begin with.
                          Very good.

                          I think the two main parties have been in coalition before? In fact, I am sure that they have been. You write as though it would be far easier to achieve than an agreement between Mr Cameron and Mr Miliband. I guess that is so. Bad news for people who want change. Good news for those averse to panic. But I sense that we might be going with this a little early! Many thanks anyway.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37886

                            Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                            Oh dear....
                            What can the matter be?

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                            • anotherbob
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1172

                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              What can the matter be?
                              I doubt Chancellors Schroeder or Kohl were ever criticised for their dress sense.

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                              • Lateralthinking1

                                Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                                I doubt Chancellors Schroeder or Kohl were ever criticised for their dress sense.

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