How Obama won - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20240375
The US Election
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Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostI wasted £1.20 on the Guardian today before I realised it 24 pages - 24 pages - on the USA elections!
Other papers are available, Floss, and they have offers...the Western Daily Press often have a "free sausage roll or minced beef pasty" token. Yum. Much less than £1.20, and none of that "right on" lefty nonsense.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Mandryka
There seems to be a lot of deluded ballyhooing on the part of leftists and liberals over Obama's re-election.
Yesterday, I saw two Americans - one a 'socialist' senator from Vermont and a blogger for something call the Daily Beast - talking about how significant it all was, although the 'socialist' (the inverted commas are mine) was mildly critical.
They seem blind to the fact that basically Obama is about as left-wing as a moderate British Tory MP. So, all they can properly 'celebrate' is what has been avoided.
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Originally posted by teamsaint View PostOther papers are available, Floss, and they have offers...the Western Daily Press often have a "free sausage roll or minced beef pasty" token. Yum. Much less than £1.20, and none of that "right on" lefty nonsense.
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Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostThe Evening Times in Glasgow has enticing offers too - sometimes as lavish as a packet of crisps, or a pocket pack of tisues!
I love those offers.....i bet circulation soars on a "free salt and vinegar " night...tissues handy in those cold climes too !
The WDP don't seem to cater to those hungry for both news and a veggie/organic snack....
I am also of the opinion that free flexidiscs would boost sales too , in a retro kind of way....
Anyway ,back to page 22 of the US election results...........I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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The ET is still sold from news-stands. Sometimes you see a van park, the back doors open, & the news-stands are unloaded & wheeled into place on the street. I couldn't swear that the rather whizened old men (probably not as old as they look) who sell thye papers aren't unloaded from the back of the van as well.
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Lateralthinking1
Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostI wasted £1.20 on the Guardian today before I realised it 24 pages - 24 pages - on the USA elections!
Polls determined by Germany's major polling agencies Allensbach, Emnid, Forsa, Forschungsgruppe Wahlen, GMS and Infratest Dimap suggest that, were the next election to take place in November 2012, Chancellor Merkel's CDU/CSU would be the leading party with about 37.9% share of the vote. The Social Democrats would reach about 28.7%, the Greens 13.5%, the Left 7.0%, Pirate Party 4.5% and the Free Democratic Party about 3.9% of the votes cast (other parties: 4.5%).
Every poll suggests that neither CDU/CSU and FDP nor SPD and Greens, partners in the 1998–2005 Schröder government, would have a majority of seats. I can sense the excitement building across Britain already.Last edited by Guest; 08-11-12, 22:51.
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Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View PostYes, I am not going to draw it out. I promised to take it up again on my return and have enjoyed it but there won't be a weekly 'Letter from America'. In any case, in (probably) less than ten months time, there are elections to the 18th Bundestag.
Polls determined by Germany's major polling agencies Allensbach, Emnid, Forsa, Forschungsgruppe Wahlen, GMS and Infratest Dimap suggest that, were the next election to take place in November 2012, Chancellor Merkel's CDU/CSU would be the leading party with about 37.9% share of the vote. The Social Democrats would reach about 28.7%, the Greens 13.5%, the Left 7.0%, Pirate Party 4.5% and the Free Democratic Party about 3.9% of the votes cast (other parties: 4.5%).
Every poll suggests that neither CDU/CSU and FDP nor SPD and Greens, partners in the 1998–2005 Schröder government, would have a majority of seats. I can sense the excitement building across Britain already.
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Originally posted by Lateralthinking1 View PostYes, I am not going to draw it out. I promised to take it up again on my return and have enjoyed it but there won't be a weekly 'Letter from America'. In any case, in (probably) less than ten months time, there are elections to the 18th Bundestag.
Polls determined by Germany's major polling agencies Allensbach, Emnid, Forsa, Forschungsgruppe Wahlen, GMS and Infratest Dimap suggest that, were the next election to take place in November 2012, Chancellor Merkel's CDU/CSU would be the leading party with about 37.9% share of the vote. The Social Democrats would reach about 28.7%, the Greens 13.5%, the Left 7.0%, Pirate Party 4.5% and the Free Democratic Party about 3.9% of the votes cast (other parties: 4.5%).
Every poll suggests that neither CDU/CSU and FDP nor SPD and Greens, partners in the 1998–2005 Schröder government, would have a majority of seats. I can sense the excitement building across Britain already.
The Szenarios for that election
Merkel wins (most likely) and takes Social Democrats as partners (no others available) ... almost no changes to policy, none at all to foreign policy
Steinbrueck wins and takes CDU as partners ... almost no changes to policy, none at all to foreign policy
Steinbrueck wins and takes Greens as partners in a freak accident ... marginal changes to policy, almost no changes to foreign policy
Steinbrueck wins and takes Greens and Left as partners ... all hell brakes loose, therefor it won't ever happen
basically, nothing will happen
If any sane British person builds up even a marginal interest in the procedings of that election, he or she ought to be pretty bored to begin with.
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Lateralthinking1
Originally posted by Demetrius View PostThe Szenarios for that election
Merkel wins (most likely) and takes Social Democrats as partners (no others available) ... almost no changes to policy, none at all to foreign policy
Steinbrueck wins and takes CDU as partners ... almost no changes to policy, none at all to foreign policy
Steinbrueck wins and takes Greens as partners in a freak accident ... marginal changes to policy, almost no changes to foreign policy
Steinbrueck wins and takes Greens and Left as partners ... all hell brakes loose, therefor it won't ever happen
basically, nothing will happen
If any sane British person builds up even a marginal interest in the procedings of that election, he or she ought to be pretty bored to begin with.
I think the two main parties have been in coalition before? In fact, I am sure that they have been. You write as though it would be far easier to achieve than an agreement between Mr Cameron and Mr Miliband. I guess that is so. Bad news for people who want change. Good news for those averse to panic. But I sense that we might be going with this a little early! Many thanks anyway.
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