Ken Russell's 'Elgar'

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  • Norfolk Born
    • Jan 2025

    Ken Russell's 'Elgar'

    Ken Russell's 1962 film about Elgar will be broadcast on BBC4 at 7.30 p.m. on Friday 20 January.
  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9173

    #2
    good news, not seen it since originally broadcast when it swept us away .... interesting to see it again since i now recall very little of the film
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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37851

      #3
      The child Elgar riding horseback across the Malverns.........unforgettable - as far as I remember.

      Thanks indeed, NB - noted on the calendar.

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20575

        #4
        It's also available on a DVD along with every surviving scrap of film of the composer.

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37851

          #5
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          It's also available on a DVD along with every surviving scrap of film of the composer.
          Great! Will look out for that.

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25231

            #6
            wrong place I expect, but the "discovering music" look at Elgar 1 and the subsequent performance provided me with a really very nice drive home last night. Well done BBC !! (for once).
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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26575

              #7
              Glad I did a search first, I was poised to duplicate the vigilant Norfy's thread. Good news, I've never seen it
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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26575

                #8
                Whilst bumping this thread to remind people about tomorrow's broadcast, I've just noticed that BBC4 are also broadcasting "Song of Summer", the Ken Russell film about Delius - next Tuesday 24th at 23:00

                http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01b66rs
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Chris Newman
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2100

                  #9
                  Thanks for the bumps, Caliban...


                  ...or should I say "supercalifrajiesticexpialidotious"?

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26575

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chris Newman View Post
                    Thanks for the bumps, Caliban...


                    ...or should I say "supercalifrajiesticexpialidotious"?

                    Just Supercali will do



                    While writing, a week tomorrow on Friday 27th Jan will be a re-broadcast of

                    "Britten's Children" on BBC4, 7.30 - 9 pm.
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • salymap
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5969

                      #11
                      Thanks for the reminders Caliban. I saw that the Delius and Britten programmes were due in January, [from the BBC MM], but hadn't found the details.

                      I recorded the Elgar b/w film on video all those years ago but shall re-record as old videos seem to deteriorate.

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                      • salymap
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5969

                        #12
                        I watched the Ken Russell Elgar film but didn't think it stood the test of time very well, apart from the mock ups of Elgar as a child on the hills.

                        Very little music apart from bit of the Enigmas and the overplaying of Marches 1 and 4. I suppose I have seen too many recent programmes that paint a rather different picture of a complicated genius. Nice to see the actual pics of Carice, though. I saw her once as an old lady, but don't remember those young snaps in this film.
                        A pity those shots of the Hills aren't in colour; practically my favourite part of England.
                        Last edited by salymap; 21-01-12, 08:33.

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                        • Norfolk Born

                          #13
                          salymap: I suspect cost and copyright considerations may explain the limited musical content. Given the constraints under which KR and the 'Monitor' team were operating, it's a miracle the programme got made at all! And I'm not at all sure that the film would have the same impact had it been in colour.

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                          • salymap
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5969

                            #14
                            yes NB I forgot the copyright angle. Elgar died in 1934, film made in 1962, a mere 28 years.

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                            • Anna

                              #15
                              I had never seen it before and enjoyed it greatly and, beautiful as the Malverns are (many a time I have tramped across them) I agree with Norfy, black and white is so much more atmospheric, colour would have bee too lush and distracting. One quibble, as soon as it finished and credits began to roll, just when you are beginning to reflect and ponder on the programme, the dreaded voice over telling us what's coming next!

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