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  • rubbernecker

    Originally posted by Caliban View Post

    Not quite a compete answer - I won't string it out for ardent googlers: missing from the answer were the works of another Fauré pupil Florent Schmitt: La Tragédie de Salomé, Op.50, and Antoine et Cléopatre, Op.69
    How remiss of me to ignore two such seminal works from the course of western musical history...

    G is fermenting...

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12844

      well, Reynaldo Hahn was in many ways a "creation" of Marcel Proust's! -
      - and Fokine did after all do the choreography for his Ballet le Dieu Bleu - as well as for the Faun's afternoon - Cleopatra - Scheherazade - Oedipus - und so weiter...

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      • Nick Armstrong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 26538

        Originally posted by rubbernecker View Post
        How remiss of me to ignore two such seminal works from the course of western musical history...
        Relatively mainstream compared with some of the arcana with which you have been known to sate yourself (the nether regions of William Alwyn's discography, for instance)
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26538

          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          well, Reynaldo Hahn was in many ways a "creation" of Marcel Proust's! -
          - and Fokine did after all do the choreography for his Ballet le Dieu Bleu - as well as for the Faun's afternoon - Cleopatra - Scheherazade - Oedipus - und so weiter...
          Ah yes... well award yourself a consolation madeleine with your afternoon tea while Rubbers wrestles with G
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • mercia
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            Personally I like all the Schmitt I've heard.

            I've just read that Cole Porter studied orchestration with Koechlin, but one probably knew that already (or couldn't give a monkey's).

            Is Corrie on this evening?

            I hope you all looked at my Liszt monkey, if not here it is again

            Last edited by mercia; 08-03-11, 17:06.

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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26538

              Originally posted by hercule View Post
              I've just read that Cole Porter studied orchestration with Koechlin, but one probably knew that already (or couldn't give a monkey's)
              One didn't and one does. An interesting fact.

              And a parallel of Mr Gershwin and Monsieur Ravel.

              A propos of which, everyone knows the "better to be a first rate Gershwin than a second rate Ravel" comment of Ravel's - well on France-Musique I heard another quip from their exchanges (or maybe it's a version of the same thing - and maybe everyone except me knows this too) along the lines of:

              Gershwin: How much would you charge for lessons?
              Ravel: How much do you make from your music?
              Gershwin: (Named the amount of $$$$$)
              - pause -
              Ravel: I think you should be giving me lessons.



              Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 08-03-11, 17:19.
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • mercia
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                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                And a parallel of Mr Gershwin and Monsieur Ravel.

                mmm, I'm probably the only person who didn't know that

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                • rubbernecker

                  What G connects a first at Bayreuth, parlour music from the same year, and Jonathan Aitken?

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                  • Don Petter

                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    PS a.k.a. "Les Bandar-log" (Op. 176) - I'd never appreciated till I set this question that the eponymous "bandar-log" are the very same monkeys as appear in that sublime scene from Disney's version... "I'm the King of the Jungle" etc etc with Uncle Louie and Baloo
                    Good question! I immediately thought of Bandar-Log for monkeys, but to have worked back from that to the complete answer would have involved the tail wagging the monkey with some vengeance.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26538

                      Originally posted by rubbernecker View Post
                      What G connects a first at Bayreuth, parlour music from the same year, and Jonathan Aitken?
                      You have silenced the board for 12 hours or more...! I thought of Guardian and Granada and swords of truth and trusty shields of fair play and Grail knights and so on and so on... But no common G emerges yet
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Norfolk Born

                        Originally posted by hercule View Post
                        Is Corrie on this evening?
                        Normal transmission times of first broadcasts:
                        Mondays and Fridays 1930-2000 and 2030-2100
                        Thursdays 2030-2100.
                        There are various repeats plus a weekend omnibus.
                        You're welcome!

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                        • rubbernecker

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          You have silenced the board for 12 hours or more...! I thought of Guardian and Granada and swords of truth and trusty shields of fair play and Grail knights and so on and so on... But no common G emerges yet
                          I'm amazed no one's got this yet... The year for the first two is 1961 - an annus mirabilis in many ways, not least because Caliban came into our lives (though that's not a clue). Further examination of the wretched life of Jonathan Aitken will help.

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                          • Norfolk Born

                            Just out of interest...I wonder how many times those who set questions on this thread - myself included - have said 'I'm amazed no-one's got this yet', or words to that effect? I'll make myself a cup of coffee and see if that helps with your 'G' question.

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                            • mercia
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8920

                              Grace? (Amazing)

                              Grace Williams - opera The Parlour 1961
                              Grace Bumbry - first black singer at Bayreuth 1961
                              Jonathan Aitken - amazing fall from grace?

                              sorry, update - Aitken has written a biography of John Newton entitled From Disgrace to Amazing Grace
                              Last edited by mercia; 09-03-11, 10:23.

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                              • rubbernecker

                                Originally posted by hercule View Post
                                Grace? (Amazing)

                                Grace Williams - opera The Parlour 1961
                                Grace Bumbry - first black singer at Bayreuth 1961
                                Jonathan Aitken - amazing fall from grace?

                                sorry, update - Aitken has written a biography of John Newton entitled From Disgrace to Amazing Grace
                                Happily, I am no longer amazed.

                                Grace Bumbry played Venus in Tannhauser. Probably the first black person ever to visit Bayreuth, let alone sing!

                                John Newton, of course, wrote Amazing Grace.

                                Well done, on some amazing work. H for Hercule...!

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