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  • subcontrabass
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2780

    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    But... ?????

    Go on, scb, troll in: don't be cryptic!
    They all wrote a piece for trombone:

    Michael Haydn: Larghetto per il trombone concertato in F major

    Elgar Howarth: Concerto for Trombone and Orchestra

    Rimsky-Korsakov: Concerto in B♭, for trombone and military band

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12761

      Originally posted by Norfolk Born View Post
      A delightful discovery when compiling the question was that 'Rock of Ages' is the work of a chap called (The Reverend) Toplady.
      .
      o, the Revd Augustus Toplady ("a zestful calvinist preacher") was an interesting cove -

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26506

        Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
        They all wrote a piece for trombone:

        Michael Haydn: Larghetto per il trombone concertato in F major

        Elgar Howarth: Concerto for Trombone and Orchestra

        Rimsky-Korsakov: Concerto in B♭, for trombone and military band

        Close enough - on the card I have that they all wrote concertos for the trombone. Michael Haydn's in D seems to be moot - it's been recorded as a three movement work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIi9OgIcd5k

        ... but it seems the three movements were originally concertante movements in a longer work. It seems common ground that the solo part was inspired (no doubt like the Larghetto you mention) by the late eighteenth century master of the alto trombone, Austrian Thomas Gschladt.

        For the curious: "Gschladt was a colleague of the famous French horn player Joseph Leutgeb for whom all of Mozart´s horn concertos were written. ....Salzburg Court Kapellmeister Eberlin, who died in 1762, had also written solos for him. The deputy Kapellmeister Lolli took over after Eberlin´s death but at the same time Michael Haydn was hired as court composer and orchestra leader. The horn virtuoso Joseph Leutgeb was also brought in from Vienna, and in November Leutgeb and Gschladt were featured at a concert for the Emperor Joseph and his bride. Michael Haydn apperas to have been present and the musicians went out for a drink at the Golden Spur afterwards. Aftter this, Haydn immediately started working on a double concerto for horn and trombone. Following the premiere of this piece, Michael Haydn felt even more encouraged to write for the trombone. The result was a ten-movement work featuring a solo trombone in three of the movements and demanding the utmost virtuosity from the performer. The title of the work is unknown, as the first page is missing. It has however been known as "Michael Haydn´s trombone symphony" and was later published as "Divertimento in D" "
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12761

          ... ah, that's good: Caliban is learning how to wear the Vinteuil anorak. And I must say he does it with some style...

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26506

            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            ... ah, that's good: Caliban is learning how to wear the Vinteuil anorak. And I must say he does it with some style...

            I felt more like Stanley Grew!!

            However I am honoured that you think I might be worthy of wearing Vinteuil's sacred raiment!
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • amateur51

              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
              But... ?????

              Go on, scb, troll in: don't be cryptic!

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              • subcontrabass
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 2780

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                Close enough - on the card I have that they all wrote concertos for the trombone. Michael Haydn's in D seems to be moot - it's been recorded as a three movement work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIi9OgIcd5k

                ... but it seems the three movements were originally concertante movements in a longer work. It seems common ground that the solo part was inspired (no doubt like the Larghetto you mention) by the late eighteenth century master of the alto trombone, Austrian Thomas Gschladt.

                For the curious: "Gschladt was a colleague of the famous French horn player Joseph Leutgeb for whom all of Mozart´s horn concertos were written. ....Salzburg Court Kapellmeister Eberlin, who died in 1762, had also written solos for him. The deputy Kapellmeister Lolli took over after Eberlin´s death but at the same time Michael Haydn was hired as court composer and orchestra leader. The horn virtuoso Joseph Leutgeb was also brought in from Vienna, and in November Leutgeb and Gschladt were featured at a concert for the Emperor Joseph and his bride. Michael Haydn apperas to have been present and the musicians went out for a drink at the Golden Spur afterwards. Aftter this, Haydn immediately started working on a double concerto for horn and trombone. Following the premiere of this piece, Michael Haydn felt even more encouraged to write for the trombone. The result was a ten-movement work featuring a solo trombone in three of the movements and demanding the utmost virtuosity from the performer. The title of the work is unknown, as the first page is missing. It has however been known as "Michael Haydn´s trombone symphony" and was later published as "Divertimento in D" "
                Grove does not list this among his concertos, but suggests that it is probably a compilation of movements from two trombone concertos, a trumpet concerto and a symphony.

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26506

                  Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                  Grove does not list this among his concertos, but suggests that it is probably a compilation of movements from two trombone concertos, a trumpet concerto and a symphony.
                  These are murky waters, Watson...

                  However: it is crystal clear that the U falls to u.
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • subcontrabass
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2780

                    A U to link Denis, Louis and Francis to another Francis.

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12761

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                      I felt more like Stanley Grew!!
                      You mean Sidney has a brother??

                      You mean - there are TWO of them???

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22107

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Happy to, cloughie! (Having been brought up in Nottingham in the 60s and 70s, you'll understand the potency of your pseudonym!! Why did you choose it? Were / are you a fan?)

                        And what are you singing, out of curiosity?
                        Responses to interrogation, no Nottingham connections, just a surname abbreviation. My football allegiances are Owl-shaped, who at the moment are pear-shaped. The singing is in an informal group of members of a male voice choir who enjoy busking reasonably harmonically. Our repertoire is broadly Cornish songs, old and new.

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26506

                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          You mean Sidney has a brother??

                          You mean - there are TWO of them???

                          Sidney Stanley Schmidney Schtanley, same difference!
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26506

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Responses to interrogation, no Nottingham connections, just a surname abbreviation. My football allegiances are Owl-shaped, who at the moment are pear-shaped. The singing is in an informal group of members of a male voice choir who enjoy busking reasonably harmonically. Our repertoire is broadly Cornish songs, old and new.


                            Thanks for the details!

                            The witness may stand down
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Anna

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                              Thanks for the details!
                              The witness may stand down
                              Ahem! If I could remind Learned Counsel that Mr. Dumbledore has been waiting over one hour and twenty of the clock for someone to step forward and bear Witness to his Most Excellent Conundrum! It may be the weekend, and we have no homes to go to, but that does not excuse this level of levity and talk of Owls and Cornish fishermen!
                              Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                              A U to link Denis, Louis and Francis to another Francis.

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22107

                                Originally posted by Anna View Post
                                Ahem! If I could remind Learned Counsel that Mr. Dumbledore has been waiting over one hour and twenty of the clock for someone to step forward and bear Witness to his Most Excellent Conundrum! It may be the weekend, and we have no homes to go to, but that does not excuse this level of levity and talk of Owls and Cornish fishermen!
                                If I'd a single clue as to what the U means I would have thrown something in, probably to be scorned by words to the effect of 'what you on about'. I was merely being civil! Is this the treatment all new boys get?

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