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[vinteuil]

anything vaguely to do with their settings of Tenebrae ?

... not vaguely - exactly! But do please specify?

[mercia]

please specify?

I wish I could - I don't really understand it
each "lesson" consisting of soloist and response, the soloist singing a melisma of the first letter of the Hebrew verse ............. or something

I really have no idea what I'm talking about and wikipedia isn't helping
I'm sure my esteemed colleagues will be able to work it out

[subcontrabass]

I wish I could - I don't really understand it
each "lesson" consisting of soloist and response, the soloist singing a melisma of the first letter of the Hebrew verse ............. or something

I really have no idea what I'm talking about and wikipedia isn't helping
I'm sure my esteemed colleagues will be able to work it out

The first verse, which starts after the intoning of "Aleph" (the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet), begins with "Quomodo". See, e.g. the score of Couperin's setting at: http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/9/9...e_Tenebres.pdf

[mercia]

thanks scb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1807217/posts

[vinteuil]

Yes: the verses of The Lamentations of Jeremiah which are used for the Tenebrae services are preceded by the letters of the Hebrew alphabet (aleph, beth, gimel, daleth etc). And the opening verse begins: "Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo?" ["How doth the city sit solitary, that was full of people!"]

Mercia correctly located this as part of Tenebrae; subcontra provided the detailed answer. Which of you wishes to Respond?

[mercia]

Which of you wishes to Respond?

I think subcontra should - he obviously knows what he's talking about

[subcontrabass]

I think subcontra should - he obviously knows what he's talking about

I would not have got there without you first identifying "Tenebrae". Then it was a simple matter of actually looking at a score.

[subcontrabass]

An R, first used by Spinacino, defined one way by Galilei Senior, defined differently by Rousseau.

[cloughie]

An R, first used by Spinacino, defined one way by Galilei Senior, defined differently by Rousseau.

I think it is Ricercare.

[subcontrabass]

I think it is Ricercare.

Further explanation before you give us an S?

[cloughie]

As well as being a pice of music, Ricercare is Resarch in Italian
Francesco Spinacino (fl. 1507) was an Italian lutenist and composer who wrote 27 ricercares.
The other two by their professions were involved in research.
Galileo was an Italian scientist whose work in the 17th century helped unlock many secrets of astronomy and natural motion.
Jean-Jacques Rousseau (28 June 1712 – 2 July 1778) was a Genevan
philosopher, writer, and composer of 18th-century Romanticism of French
expression. He wrote Ricercares also?

[subcontrabass]

As well as being a pice of music, Ricercare is Resarch in Italian
Francesco Spinacino (fl. 1507) was an Italian lutenist and composer who wrote 27 ricercares.
The other two by their professions were involved in research.
Galileo was an Italian scientist whose work in the 17th century helped unlock many secrets of astronomy and natural motion.
Jean-Jacques Rousseau (28 June 1712 – 2 July 1778) was a Genevan
philosopher, writer, and composer of 18th-century Romanticism of French
expression. He wrote Ricercares also?

Wrong Galilei - the one in question was the father of Galileo. He and Rousseau wrote different academic descriptions of "Ricercare". Galilei described it as essentially a fantasia. Rousseau described it as essentially a fugue. Some composers, such as Frescobaldi, used both forms.

[cloughie]

This S links Sergei; Kurt; Nothing but tea.

[mercia]

Kurt

Sanderling? Weill ? Vonnegut? Masur?

[cloughie]

Sanderling? Weill ? Vonnegut? Masur?

OK