Alphabet associations - I

[Tapiola]

Terrifying? Spirit? I don't mind if I do but not until after six.

Thank you Angle. A relatively straightforward E (I hope).

Mussorgsky's Great Gate of Kiev and Horowitz's most famous Scriabin showpiece.
Ravel's Ondine and Chopin's Raindrop Prelude.
Mahler's 10th Symphony and Schubert's 3rd Impromptu.

What is the overarching E which governs these pairs of works?

Apologies but I may be offline for a while.

[Angle]

to set the ball rolling then I shall be away for some time, I offer

The Scriabin showpiece was either the Etude in E minor or the Etude in D sharp minor.

[Tapiola]

I would go with the latter if I were you, Angle.

Upon reflection, there is an even closer relationship between the Scriabin prelude and DSCH's final SQ...

[mercia]

so is the word enharmonic?

[Tapiola]

Correctamundo, mercia.

Can you elaborate?

[mercia]

er, well that's the relationship between D sharp minor and E flat minor i.e. they look different on the page, but sound the same

but as far as your other pairs are concerned I don't know what keys they are in, I'm afraid

[Angle]

mercia got it, but to tidy up:

Great Gate of Kiev E flat major
Scriabin Etude D sharp minor
Ondine C sharp major
Chopin Raindrop D flat major
Mahler 10 F sharp minor
Schubert 3rd Impromptu G flat major

All correct ?

Over to Mercia now :)

[mercia]

Over to Mercia now

no I think you should take it Angle, the details are all-important, besides which your questions are absolute crackers, mine are, well, whatever the opposite is
and you've seen Hindemith trouserless which I think is probably a trump card

[mercia]

actually Angle, now I look at your tidy-up list, they don't look enharmonically connected

wouldn't it be F sharp minor and G flat minor?
and E flat major and D sharp major?

[rubbernecker]

and you've seen Hindemith trouserless which I think is probably a trump card

That is indeed the platinum card of backstage passes...

I'm now back from Whitby via North Wales, Ofca's gone to where I started from and sounds like Anna's gone to where I've just been. 10 days away on holiday, I've suffered a burning throat, peeling skin, complete lack of sleep and I've missed an entire cycle of the alphabet

Thanks to Anna for updating the previous answers. I suspect duplications will be even harder to avoid the further this thread progresses. Trouble is, it's a finite resource - a bit like oil

[mercia]

sorry to hear about your throat, but welcome back anyway

[Tapiola]

mercia,

Actually, the inexactitude of major and minor is all my own doing - the key (pun intended ) issue is the enharmonic relationship and not whether the pieces are major or minor. Which is why, I suppose, I provided the example of DSCH SQ 15 as being closer to the Scriabin in a sense than the Mussorgsky.

Admittedly not one of my better questions...

[mercia]

Admittedly not one of my better questions

better than any of mine. I hope Angle takes up my offer of the next letter

I'm to bed now

[Tapiola]

t wouldn't say that, mon chere hercule - zose leetle grey cells...

By my reckoning, you and Angle have 2 each from that "E". Ok, Angle has seen Hindemith's drawers, but you got the connection.

Who wants "F"?

(btw the Hindepants story reminds me of an incident during my postgraduate days, which, funnily enough, had a Hindemith connection and involved undergarments. It would be far too indelicate of me to repeat in this medium; the person in question - who had played under H in an American orchestra - might still be alive... )

[Angle]

mercia, my head is spinning slightly.

I have checked and double checked and I find I made onbe error. Here's what I see as the correct pairs:


Great Gate of Kiev E flat major
Scriabin Etude D sharp minor
(but how can this be ?) (I keep wanting the Mussorgsky to be in E flat minor but it isn't)

Ondine C sharp major
Chopin Raindrop D flat major

Mahler 10 F sharp major
Schubert 3rd Impromptu G flat major

Would you mind clarifying this, Tapiola?

I'll have a go at F but it will be straightforward, I hope. It might take half an hour.