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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    I jest, of course: 'tis the distantly beloved Brian John Peter Ferneyhough.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • mercia
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      • Nov 2010
      • 8920

      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      La Chute d'Icare for clarinet & ensemble (1988)
      Bone Alphabet for percussionist(1991)
      Plotzlichkeit (= "suddenliness"?!) for orchestra (2006)
      oh, are you back already ? - trez bean
      why is it called Bone Alphabet ?

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        why is it called Bone Alphabet ?
        I have no idea! I'd guess that the seven instruments that the percussionist chooses act as a sort of Alphabet, with the "words" produced then "anagramized" throughout the piece. (Or it might have something to do with ahinton's atrocious pun that "'alph a bet is better than none"!)

        There's a glorious youTube video of the composer taking a percussion masterclass with a student who really doesn't know what to do. Ferneyhough tries his best, sings the different lines, explains the tempo changes and keeps his cool as his student repeatedly fails to get what he's talking about!

        Want a G?

        Stravinsky popularly; Bruckner finally; Haydn all the time.
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        • antongould
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          • Nov 2010
          • 8680

          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

          Want a G?

          Stravinsky popularly; Bruckner finally; Haydn all the time.
          Great?

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            Great?
            No.

            Well, yes, they all are - but that isn't the required G.

            It might help to mention that we're mainly talking symphonically here.
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            • mercia
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              • Nov 2010
              • 8920

              wiki says Koussevitzky commissioned Stravinsky to write something popular for orchestra without chorus but he came up with the Symphony of Psalms

              I'm vaguely wondering if the word is God but I haven't thought it through

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              • antongould
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                • Nov 2010
                • 8680

                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                No.

                Well, yes, they all are - but that isn't the required G.

                It might help to mention that we're mainly talking symphonically here.
                Bruckner 9 was of course to the Beloved God??

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  Bruckner 9 was of course to the Beloved God??
                  It was indeed.

                  I think mercs might be grateful if you got the tie-break?
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                  • antongould
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8680

                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    It was indeed.

                    I think mercs might be grateful if you got the tie-break?
                    Struggling more than a little Ferney and mercs unless we mean JH writing "The End Praise God" at the end of the Journey?

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                    • mercia
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8920

                      you have it I think AG. This paragraph from wiki

                      Haydn was a devout Catholic who often turned to his rosary when he had trouble composing, a practice that he usually found to be effective. He normally began the manuscript of each composition with "in nomine Domini" ("in the name of the Lord") and ended with "Laus Deo" ("praise be to God").

                      not sure my Stravinsky is correct.

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                      • antongould
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8680

                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        you have it I think AG. This paragraph from wiki

                        Haydn was a devout Catholic who often turned to his rosary when he had trouble composing, a practice that he usually found to be effective. He normally began the manuscript of each composition with "in nomine Domini" ("in the name of the Lord") and ended with "Laus Deo" ("praise be to God").

                        not sure my Stravinsky is correct.

                        I think it is .....but we shall await the Question Master

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by antongould View Post
                          I think it is .....but we shall await the Question Master
                          Yes it is. All wrote Symphonies "dedicated" to God - in Haydn's case, he added his thanks to everything he wrote. (And, as mercs instantly noted, Stravinsky's response to Koussevitsky's request for a "popular" piece for the Boston Symphony Orchestra'a anniversary was the gloriously cool Symphony of Psalms - because it was about "the people" praising God.)

                          We should hurry on - honours equally divided between anton and mercs: either of you hany hideas?
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • antongould
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Yes it is. All wrote Symphonies "dedicated" to God - in Haydn's case, he added his thanks to everything he wrote. (And, as mercs instantly noted, Stravinsky's response to Koussevitsky's request for a "popular" piece for the Boston Symphony Orchestra'a anniversary was the gloriously cool Symphony of Psalms - because it was about "the people" praising God.)

                            We should hurry on - honours equally divided between anton and mercs: either of you hany hideas?
                            I suppose it depends on who found God first.......

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              Originally posted by antongould View Post
                              I suppose it depends on who found God first.......
                              Ah! But he who was first might be last ...
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • antongould
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8680

                                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                                Ah! But he who was first might be last ...
                                Mercs sometimes appreciates a break from setting so an H

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