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  • mercia
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 8920

    so was Einojuhani Rautavaara Isle of Bliss correct ???

    + Rachmaninov Isle of the Dead
    I would think my Messiaen is correct [he said modestly]

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    • hedgehog

      Yes all round Mercia ahead on the tally, Jolly good!


      Can someone explain to me why it’s called coleslaw? (In particular, the idea of a side-salad to the main dish, I get.)

      The sentence was: “It was a horror once called Camilla, but then attained great happiness, with two fires burning on it in the South Pacific.”

      Nr 1. Isle of the Dead by Sergei Rachmaninov inspired by the painting of
      The same name by the Swiss artist Arnold Böcklin (1827–1901).

      As Mercia discovered there was a horror film made with the same name, starring Boris Karloff. Its original title was "Camilla" (don't ask me why).



      Nr2. To my utter joy, so I could use Debussy as a red herring

      the Finnish composer Einojuhani Rautavaara (1928 -) has written a work entitled Island of Bliss (1995).

      This composer has written a prodigious amount of music, some of it is very good, not in the experimental category. The CD containing his Violin Concerto, Angels and Visitations and Isle of Bliss is as good a place to start. He has written a heap of Symphonies and concertos.

      Nr3 Messiaen Île de feu 1&2

      These pieces are to be found in the work Etudes de rythme. The most famous piece in this set of four is
      Modes de valeurs et d’intensités, which is often seen as the one which is to blame for Serial Music.

      Nr 1 (nr 2 was, and wasn't apparently) was dedicated to Papua, as Papua & New Guinea was then known - hence South Pacific Island.

      Here's a link on the 4 etudes with info on these two pieces as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quatre_études_de_rythme
      Last edited by Guest; 14-02-13, 11:27.

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      • mercia
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8920

        Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
        Can someone explain to me why it’s called coleslaw?
        I used to know but now I've forgotten
        thank you very much for the detailed explanation - brilliant question
        shall I take up the baton ?


        a J involving

        lupine terpsichore under a prunus while the Planets take shape



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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12940

          Originally posted by hedgehog View Post


          Can someone explain to me why it’s called coleslaw? (In particular, the idea of a side-salad to the main dish, I get.)
          ... some time back our esteemed fellow Boardee Anna made a plea for the person who gave the answer to provide full details.

          This became known as "Anna's Law".

          annaslaw then became corrupted into today's "coleslaw"

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          • Flay
            Full Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 5795

            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            ...for the person who gave the answer to provide full details.
            It could be either the setter or the settee who provides the coleslaw. It is good to have a summation of the conundrum, especially when sometimes it can take a few pages to get all the answers out...
            Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26575

              Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
              Nr 1. Isle of the Dead
              Nr. 2 Einojuhani Rautavaara Island of Bliss (1995)
              Nr. 3 Messiaen Île de feu 1&2
              (Fascinating detail edited for quote purposes)
              Possibly the most complete compliance with Anna's Law (i.e. a Michelin -standard dish of 'Slaw ) in the history of AA, and one of the most foxing puzzles ever too

              Bathloads of kudos (what is "kudos"? It always sounds like bubble bath to me) to mercs for solving it.
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • mercia
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 8920

                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                a J involving

                lupine terpsichore under a prunus while the Planets take shape
                one work by one composer [probably the first composer you thought of]

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                • Flay
                  Full Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 5795

                  Originally posted by mercia View Post
                  [probably the first composer you thought of]
                  Yes it was
                  Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26575

                    Michael Praetorius?

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Flay
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 5795

                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      Michael Praetorius?
                      No
                      Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26575

                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        I used to know but now I've forgotten
                        thank you very much for the detailed explanation - brilliant question
                        shall I take up the baton ?


                        a J involving
                        lupine terpsichore under a prunus while the Planets take shape
                        Japanese Suite including 5.Dance under the Cherry Tree & 6.Finale: Dance of the Wolves, composed it seems in tandem with The Planets Suite, all by G Holst Esq.

                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Flay
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 5795

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          Japanese Suite including 5.Dance under the Cherry Tree & 6.Finale: Dance of the Wolves, composed it seems in tandem with The Planets Suite, all by G Holst Esq.

                          Well done! I have assumed a lurking posture as I am supposed to be sorting a mountain of paperwork.

                          Apparently:

                          In the middle of composing The Planets, Gustav Holst wrote Japanese Suite at the request of a Japanese dancer named Michio Ito. Ito was appearing at the London Coliseum and wanted to dance to a work derived from traditional Japanese tunes. Holst didn't know any tunes, so Ito actually had to whistle several to him.
                          Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26575

                            I have a K at the ready, assuming mercia's assent, and picking up from mercia's horticultural reference...

                            .... a K which links a German tomcat; a Hungarian hommage involving pirouettes; and the blossom of the malus
                            Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 14-02-13, 14:58. Reason: Slight expansion of Element 2: I thought it was unfairly obscure...
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • mercia
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8920

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              assuming mercia's assent
                              but of course, mein host

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                              • mercia
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                a German tomcat
                                The Life And Opinions Of the Tomcat Murr together with a fragmentary Biography of Kappelmeister Johannes Kreisler on Random Sheets of Waste Paper is a complex satirical novel by Prussian Romantic-era author E.T.A. Hoffmann

                                and a very long title

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