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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26574

    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
    You're welcome mein Host

    Phee-eeeew I thought you'd 'done a mercia' on me carefully and craftily constructed H in double quick time
    Because something I said was unwittingly close to the answer? Or just my speedy response?
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • amateur51

      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      Because something I said was unwittingly close to the answer? Or just my speedy response?
      Your speedy response was what bothered me ;ok:

      I'll be going out around 18:00 for the evening so press on, your AAers :bigrin: - no clue there either

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      • mercia
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8920

        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
        An H linking lilac time; the death of King George; and a plentiful yuletide celebration
        is that George V ?

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        • amateur51

          Originally posted by mercia View Post
          is that George V ?
          Curses!

          It is!

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          • mercia
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            ...... in which case I think I shall plump for Hindemith

            Trauermusik on the death of George V ...... long story

            Opera, The Long Christmas Dinner [I like your clue]
            When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd: A Requiem for those we love ?

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            • amateur51

              Originally posted by mercia View Post
              ...... in which case I think I shall plump for Hindemith

              Trauermusik on the death of George V ...... long story

              Opera, The Long Christmas Dinner [I like your clue]
              When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd: A Requiem for those we love ?
              Ah feel that mercian stiletto as it slides between the setter's ribs

              100% correct my dear mercs and as fine a coleslaw as you'll find anywhere

              Tempt us with an I, why don't you?

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              • Quarky
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 2672

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                Thanks Oddball for that explanation. I follow most of that, but for two things:

                First, this:
                ... I don't follow how that works.

                Second: what's the purpose of having a numerical - alphabetical code based on 16 - it just seems random to me, why not based on 13 or 19 or 34 or any other number for example?
                OK Caliban.

                Key to the exercise is binary code that is recognised by a computer. As I stated: Binary code always starts from 0, zero (http://php.about.com/od/programinggl.../qt/binary.htm). A computer recognises 0 as absence of an input voltage, 1 as presence of an input voltage.

                It's slightly awkward that binary code is out of step with decimal, in that we start with number 1 in decimal, whereas we start with number 0 in binary. In decimal , when we get past 9, to get to the next number, we put 1 in the ten's column and start at 0 in the 1's column, thus: 10 -ten!
                As stated in the link: The number one is represented as 1 in both base ten and binary, so let's move on to the number two. In base ten this is represented as a 2, however in binary we can only have a 0 or a 1 before moving on to the next column. The number 2 is written as 10. This means 1 in the 2s column and 0 in the 1s column. Let's take a look at the number three. Obviously in base ten it is written as 3. In base two (binary) it is written as 11. This means a 1 in the 2s column and a 1 in the 1s column. 2+1 = 3. When we get to 4, we have to put a 1 in the 4's column, and reset the 2's and 1's, thus:100 - four. five is 101, six, 110, seven 111. For eight we have to put a one in the eight's column - 1000. We then increment up to 15 - 1111 .
                for 16, we put a 1 in the 16's column, for 32, we put a 1 in the 32's column, and so on and so on, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024....

                Hex code is a code written simply for the convenience of a computer engineer, so that he can visualise the binary code more easily. So he groups together the binary numbers up to 15 -1111, in terms of a single symbol - 0 through 9 and A through F -So 15 is F, for sixteen we put a 1 in the 16's column, and reset the first column to 0, thus: 10! Seventeen is 11, up to 31 - 1F. For 32 we increment the 16's column - 20, 48 - 30, 64 - 40 . Gets tedious! for 160 - A0, 176- B0, 240 - F0. 241- F1, 249 - F9, 250 - FA, up to 255 -FF! 256 - 100.

                An engineer can hold within his mind FF as representing 255, but he would have difficulty visualising binary 11111111.

                See http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Hexadecimal.html

                The code could in theory be written to a base 8 (111) with numbers e.g 0 -7, or base 32 (11111) , with numbers 0-9 and letters A-W (I think) - but it has to be to a number which is a power of 2, so as to correspond with the binary system, or else the code would not be aligned with the binary system. However the Computer world feels more comfortable looking at numbers to base 16, I feel.

                Disclaimer - an eagle eyed computer programmer might spot a slight defect in my explanation, but the above is the full sense of it, IMV.

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                • mercia
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8920

                  Originally posted by mercia View Post
                  thanks oddball, that all makes perfect sense
                  perhaps I spoke too soon

                  meanwhile an I connecting


                  marble halls, nocturnes and a gladdening light

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                  • amateur51

                    Originally posted by mercia View Post
                    perhaps I spoke too soon

                    meanwhile an I connecting


                    marble halls
                    , nocturnes and a gladdening light
                    I Dreamt I Dwelt in Marble Halls by Balfe who was Irish?

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                    • mercia
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 8920

                      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                      I Dreamt I Dwelt in Marble Halls by Balfe who was Irish?


                      thought you were off out at 18:00 ?

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                      • amateur51

                        Originally posted by mercia View Post


                        thought you were off out at 18:00 ?
                        I'm late!!

                        That's one of the choons that I learned to play on the joanner

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22184

                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          I Dreamt I Dwelt in Marble Halls by Balfe who was Irish?
                          Nocturnes were invented by Field who was also Irish.

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22184

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Nocturnes were invented by Field who was also Irish.
                            Charles Wood was an Irish composer who wrote Gladdening Light.

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                            • mercia
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8920

                              jolly good [Hail, Gladdening Light]

                              three Irish composers

                              who's next ????

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26574

                                Looks to me like it's between you and the cloughster...
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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