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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26527

    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
    Antiphons = Question & answer
    I could have googled and thought and cogitated and pondered from today till Doomsday, and that solution wouldn't have occurred to me ...

    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
      • 22118

      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      I could have googled and thought and cogitated and pondered from today till Doomsday, and that solution wouldn't have occurred to me ...

      You and me both Cali - that ams is a cunning fellow!

      Meanwhile R seems to have gone slient on the R.

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      • Roslynmuse
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        • Jun 2011
        • 1237

        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        You and me both Cali - that ams is a cunning fellow!

        Meanwhile R seems to have gone slient on the R.
        Back home now!

        The non-Sullivan/Britten/Prokofiev prodigal son is fairly well-known - an extract was recorded by Beecham, for example.

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26527

          Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
          What R connects a kingfisher, a wasteful offspring and the madness of Ophelia?
          AH ha!!!! Is R Rome ?

          Debussy won the Prix de Rome with his "Enfant Prodigue"

          I suspect the Ophelia reference is to Berlioz who also won the Prix de Rome...

          Still searching, inc. for the kingfisher reference.

          I fully expect that when I press 'Post Quick Reply' mercia or cloughie will have just posted the answer..

          EDIT: got there first!
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Roslynmuse
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            • Jun 2011
            • 1237

            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            AH ha!!!! Is R Rome ?

            Debussy won the Prix de Rome with his "Enfant Prodigue"

            I suspect the Ophelia reference is to Berlioz who also won the Prix de Rome...

            Still searching, inc. for the kingfisher reference.

            I fully expect that when I press 'Post Quick Reply' mercia or cloughie will have just posted the answer..

            EDIT: got there first!
            Rome is correct!

            As is Debussy and L'enfant prodigue.

            Not Berlioz (in this instance) though, although it could have been - you'll have to look both earlier and later (don't worry, my logical mind means they are not completely abitrary choices!)

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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26527

              Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
              Rome is correct!

              As is Debussy and L'enfant prodigue.

              Not Berlioz (in this instance) though, although it could have been - you'll have to look both earlier and later (don't worry, my logical mind means they are not completely abitrary choices!)
              The kingfisher reference I think is to Ravel - it's the fourth song in his 1906 "Histoires Naturelles" song-cycle... not a Prix de Rome entry, but he had (eventually) won a second prize in 1901 with some ghastly cantata...

              And Jules Lefebvre (who he? Ed.) won the Prix de Rome in 1861 and went on to write a piece called "Ophélia" in 1890....
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Roslynmuse
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                • Jun 2011
                • 1237

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                The kingfisher reference I think is to Ravel - it's the fourth song in his 1906 "Histoires Naturelles" song-cycle... not a Prix de Rome entry, but he had (eventually) won a second prize in 1901 with some ghastly cantata...

                And Jules Lefebvre (who he? Ed.) won the Prix de Rome in 1861 and went on to write a piece called "Ophélia" in 1890....
                All true - but not relevant!

                EDIT - 3rd prize in 1901? (Acc to Wiki)

                Keep thinking about Ravel's other attempts and that may lead indirectly to the kingfisher...

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22118

                  Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
                  All true - but not relevant!

                  EDIT - 3rd prize in 1901? (Acc to Wiki)

                  Keep thinking about Ravel's other attempts and that may lead indirectly to the kingfisher...
                  andthe Martin-Pecheur andthe end of Le GrillonintheHistoires naturelles

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26527

                    Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
                    All true - but not relevant!








                    ..... exits to regroup and do further research...
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Roslynmuse
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                      • Jun 2011
                      • 1237

                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      andthe Martin-Pecheur andthe end of Le GrillonintheHistoires naturelles
                      Not Histoires naturelles (although I love them!)

                      I'm feeling a bit like the fisherman in Le martin-pecheur - 'Not a bite today!'

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                      • Roslynmuse
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                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1237

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post








                        ..... exits to regroup and do further research...
                        Great smileys, Cali!

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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22118

                          Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
                          Great smileys, Cali!
                          Pines

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                          • Nick Armstrong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26527

                            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                            Pines


                            Not more bloody Respighi....
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Roslynmuse
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                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1237

                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Pines
                              Nope!

                              Stick with the Prix!

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                              • cloughie
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                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22118

                                Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
                                Nope!

                                Stick with the Prix!
                                Is it Ravel or not? 'COS HE NEVER WON IT!

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