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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26524

    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
    ... is there any significance in the fact that Flay asks us to delve for "an G"???
    You really have got your magnifying lorgnette out today, haven't you, vinfortifié ?
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • vinteuil
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12798

      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      You really have got your magnifying lorgnette out today, haven't you, vinfortifié ?
      ... o, just all those years in MI6, dontcha know...

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      • mercia
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8920

        <doh>

        golden ratio ??

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        • Flay
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          • Mar 2007
          • 5795

          Originally posted by mercia View Post
          <doh>

          golden ratio ??
          That's the one. Can you coleslaw it please - I'm a little tied up?
          Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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          • mercia
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            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            Originally posted by Flay View Post
            I'm a little tied up
            is that part of the birthday celebrations ?


            not sure I fully understand golden ratio, so will have to copy a bleeding chunk from wikipedia

            French composer Erik Satie used the golden ratio in several of his pieces, including Sonneries de la Rose+Croix. The golden ratio is also apparent in the organization of the sections in the music of Debussy's Reflets dans l'eau (Reflections in Water), from Images (1st series, 1905), in which "the sequence of keys is marked out by the intervals 34, 21, 13 and 8, and the main climax sits at the phi position."

            The musicologist Roy Howat has observed that the formal boundaries of La Mer correspond exactly to the golden section. Trezise finds the intrinsic evidence "remarkable," but cautions that no written or reported evidence suggests that Debussy consciously sought such proportions. Also, many works of Chopin, mainly Etudes (studies) and Nocturnes, are formally based on the golden ratio. This results in the biggest climax of both musical expression and technical difficulty after about 2/3 of the piece.



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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26524

              Originally posted by mercia View Post
              is that part of the birthday celebrations ?
              Mercia! I'm surprised at you!


              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12798

                Originally posted by mercia View Post


                not sure I fully understand golden ratio...
                ... I refer the Honble. Member to the 'edible maths' thread in the Refreshment Room zone of these Boards...


                (started by ... 'Mercia' !!! )

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                • Anna

                  And could I just say: Flay, please pass on our best birthday wishes to Mrs. Flay and thank her for her patience and forbearance in letting you play here with your friends so often! (And, am I mistaken or is it also vinteuil's special day today as well?)

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                  • vinteuil
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12798

                    Originally posted by Anna View Post
                    (And, am I mistaken or is it also vinteuil's special day today as well?)
                    ... thanks for a nice thought, Anna, but no, 16 Oct is not a particularly significant date in the vinteuil household. M et Mme V are both June birthdays...

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26524

                      Originally posted by Anna View Post
                      (And, am I mistaken or is it also vinteuil's special day today as well?)

                      Yes, indeed you are correct Anna, it is vinchaud's special day for picking up on typos with his special 'secret service' high-magnification monocle
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Anna

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                        Yes, indeed you are correct Anna, it is vinchaud's special day for picking up on typos with his special 'secret service' high-magnification monocle
                        I remember now, vints was talking about Vatican II (16th Oct 1962) and that date must have lodged in my memory as significant to him ..... <doh> Easy mistake!

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                        • vinteuil
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12798

                          Originally posted by Anna View Post
                          I remember now, vints was talking about Vatican II (16th Oct 1962) and that date must have lodged in my memory as significant to him ..... <doh> Easy mistake!


                          For early music people 16 Oct might be significant as the feast day of St Gall - the Benedictine monastery bearing his name being an important centre *.

                          And let us not forget St Richard Gwyn, feast day 16 Oct, a native of Llanidloes in Powys, one of the Forty Martyrs...

                          Also, of course, Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque, feast day 16 Oct, to whom the vision of the Sacred Heart was first vouchsafed ( at Paray-le-Monial, 1673-1775 ).


                          .

                          * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_of_St._Gall

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                          • mercia
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            (started by ... 'Mercia' !!! )
                            oops

                            so the golden rasher is to do with that Irish mathematician Fib O' Narchie, I see
                            somehow Satie and green cauliflower go well together

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                            • Flay
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 5795

                              Originally posted by Anna View Post
                              And could I just say: Flay, please pass on our best birthday wishes to Mrs. Flay and thank her for her patience and forbearance in letting you play here with your friends so often! (And, am I mistaken or is it also vinteuil's special day today as well?)
                              Thanks for the kind wishes which I shall convey (to which she will no doubt reply that I should be getting on with my work and not being so distractible, no wonder I never get anything done etc. etc. )

                              Thanks for the summation, mercs. Everyone's being mischievous today!

                              The Golden Ratio is perplexing to me too, I must think about it. Not as easy to get the head round (no comments, mercs & Calibs!!) as the Fibonacci (brocolli) series.



                              Eventually it comes down to that familiar formula x = (−b + √(b2 − 4ac))/(2a) and somehow gives a number 1.61803398875... etc
                              If you divide this into 1 it gives you 0.61803398875. How odd!
                              Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                              • mercia
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                is it me ?




                                rephrase these for works by H

                                Anglo-Saxon moggy
                                deceived body of water (e.g. Mediterranean)
                                alone in a French thoroughfare
                                a beeline for e.g. the Thames

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