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  • Resurrection Man

    In for a penny....in for a pound!

    Song of Joy ? No dice here? Sofas are bourgeois. All connect to X. Who is X

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    • Northender

      I could tell you, had I not been sworn to s*cr*cy
      (Actually, I haven't a clue as yet but am to happy to 'think on' as they say further North).

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      • Resurrection Man

        Actually I think I've made this one too easy as I've seen a quick way in to the answer that I'd not spotted before.

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26524

          Originally posted by Resurrection Man View Post
          Actually I think I've made this one too easy as I've seen a quick way in to the answer that I'd not spotted before.
          Can't find a way in... though I haven't been able to concentrate on it properly.

          A clue-ette, perhaps?
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • mercia
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            in October at Glyndebourne there's an opera called The Yellow Sofa
            but I don't see any relevance at the moment
            Elizabeth Maconchy wrote an opera called The Sofa
            Song of Joy album by Captain & Tennille
            the word aleatoric derives from the Latin for dice apparently
            Last edited by mercia; 11-07-12, 14:38.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              Originally posted by Resurrection Man View Post
              Sofas are bourgeois.
              Sounds like we're playing the Jeanneretion Game!? (But relevance to X escapes me
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                OH! Am I being particularly dense today!?
                Le Corbu was, of course, Xenakis' architect mentor!
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12796

                  ... the bourgeois sofa is usually a reference to le Corbusier. Don't know if that helps.

                  EDIT - X-postedwith ferneyhiccough, who's got there...

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    EDIT - X-postedwith ferneyhiccough, who's got there...
                    Have I???!

                    Well, "no dice" could refer either to Iannis' rejection of Cage's aleatoricism in favour of his more mathematically motivated stochaistic methods - or to Boulez' essay against Cage (Boulez having infamously sneered at Xenakis for having a great intellect but no ear!!!)

                    Ode to Joy? A translation of one of Xenakis' titles? Alas, I don't have the Latin.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Resurrection Man

                      Oh well done, everyone. The sofa quote was the way in as Google takes you straight to Corbusier.

                      No dice is right on the money. From the Oxford Dictionary of Music Although he used elecs., most of Xenakis's works employ traditional human forces, but embody his concept of STOCHASTIC music. This mathematical term, as applied to mus., is a theory of probability: that the results of chance will reach a determinate end. In contrast to the ALEATORY processes of CAGE and others, Dice imply chance...ie aleatory. No dice = no chance.

                      Just the third left...one of his fellow students when he was in Paris perhaps.

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        there's a Chant de Joie by Honegger

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by mercia View Post
                          there's a Chant de Joie by Honegger
                          ... who taught Xenakis in Paris!
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Resurrection Man

                            Spot on. Well done, all. I must try harder next time !

                            Over to ferneyhoughgeliebte

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              Originally posted by Resurrection Man View Post
                              Over to ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              I saw Xenakis briefly on two occasions: at a London Sinfonietta concert in the 1983 (-ish) and on his last visit to Huddersfield, when sadly his Altzheimer's was pretty advanced. Great man, great Musician, I love his description of Beethoven's Seventh as no longer a piece of Music, but a force of Nature.


                              Galileo Metamorphoses into Lulu. At which Z?
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • Anna

                                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                                Galileo Metamorphoses into Lulu. At which Z?
                                You can fly from Zagreb to Galileo airport ..... but where's the Lulu? Are some Bankers involved in this I wonder? Off now btw!

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