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  • salymap
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5969

    King George and Queen Mary:

    the Royals Who Rescued the Monarchy.

    Part 1 last night seems a good straightforward account so far,[half way though recording], of the man who was King when I was born.

    I remember in my first week at school in 1935, being lined up with my new school friends to wave a flag as the King and Queen drove past along the shabby Kennington street.

    2nd part on Queen Mary tonight at 9pm on BBC2.
  • teamsaint
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 25251

    #2
    There is an awful lot of stuff being broadcast and put out on film about the monarchy these days.
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30652

      #3
      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
      There is an awful lot of stuff being broadcast and put out on film about the monarchy these days.
      Anything to do with this, d'you think? What with that and the 2012 Olympics, I dunno, this country ... won't be worth living in
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25251

        #4
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Anything to do with this, d'you think? What with that and the 2012 Olympics, I dunno, this country ... won't be worth living in
        Its all about distraction from real issues.

        most people I know think the monarchy is a waste of time and money,(at best) and most think the olympics are an expensive distraction.(27000 troops and police ?)
        Then again, most people I know don't visit this board !!

        As Morrissey said, " It says nothing to me about my life".

        still as long as the unemployed keep quiet, everything is ok !!
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • amateur51

          #5
          It's all part of an Establishment project, a long-term tutorial (the film The King's Speech was about explaining where The Queen "came from") to get us (particularly young people and immigrant communities) all up-to-speed about the recent history of the monarchy and its central role in British society and history. French frank's right about the urgent need being around the Jubilee & Olympix but there's going to be a significant death or two in the next few years (witness Prince Philip's extended hozzie stay) and the dolt who is next-in-line is not exactly popular so they want us to get a sense of history before he's landed on us.

          After all, it started with a previous Prince of Wales chucking all his toys out of the pram, so nothing's certain except that the monarchy will continue for the forseeable future. We don't have any politicians around with the courage to address the Monarchy Project aka republicanism.

          But then I'm sure people said that in Egypt a year or so ago ...

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 9173

            #6
            er .... whisper it .....no succession!
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • salymap
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 5969

              #7
              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
              It's all part of an Establishment project, a long-term tutorial (the film The King's Speech was about explaining where The Queen "came from") to get us (particularly young people and immigrant communities) all up-to-speed about the recent history of the monarchy and its central role in British society and history. French frank's right about the urgent need being around the Jubilee & Olympix but there's going to be a significant death or two in the next few years (witness Prince Philip's extended hozzie stay) and the dolt who is next-in-line is not exactly popular so they want us to get a sense of history before he's landed on us.

              After all, it started with a previous Prince of Wales chucking all his toys out of the pram, so nothing's certain except that the monarchy will continue for the forseeable future. We don't have any politicians around with the courage to address the Monarchy Project aka republicanism.


              But then I'm sure people said that in Egypt a year or so ago ...

              But can we be sure that the republicanism would be better. Power corrupts? President Blair ?????

              I've always thought it's what the Royals keep out that makes them important.

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              • amateur51

                #8
                Originally posted by salymap View Post
                But can we be sure that the republicanism would be better. Power corrupts? President Blair ?????

                I've always thought it's what the Royals keep out that makes them important.
                You have a point there, salymap but I'd prefer to be treated as an adult rather than as a child. If the country votes for Pres. Blair then we'll have deserved him. And at least we'll be able to get rid of him (it'll be in the constitution )

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                • subcontrabass
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2780

                  #9
                  Originally posted by salymap View Post
                  But can we be sure that the republicanism would be better. Power corrupts? President Blair ?????

                  I've always thought it's what the Royals keep out that makes them important.
                  There is more than one model for a republic. The Irish and German models have non-political elected presidents.

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                  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 9173

                    #10
                    we do not necessarily need to have a president ..... a head of state can take many forms, as i have posted afore i prefer the Swiss arrangements for a head of state ... a collective body with no fetishised individual ....

                    i have just watched the programme and have guiltily realised my ignorance of his role and longevity ....
                    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                    • amateur51

                      #11
                      Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                      There is more than one model for a republic. The Irish and German models have non-political elected presidents.
                      That's why I was so interested in the recent Irish elections scb

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                      • mercia
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8920

                        #12
                        re: King George V, I remember a TV programme putting forward the interesting theory that Kaiser Bill was particularly keen to go to war with Britain because he kept losing yachting races against his cousin

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                        • Mary Chambers
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1963

                          #13
                          I don't think it's necessary to be a monarchist to find the history of the royal family interesting. I see it at least partly as social history. I enjoy seeing how history repeats itself, or not, as the case may be. I enjoy the sense of continuity and the events that disrupt it from time to time. I like seeing family resemblances, fashions and the way people behaved in the past. I remember Queen Mary, but not George V.

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                          • antongould
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8852

                            #14
                            Originally posted by salymap View Post
                            But can we be sure that the republicanism would be better. Power corrupts? President Blair ?????

                            I've always thought it's what the Royals keep out that makes them important.
                            We have to remember salymap lives very close to Napoleon 3 - or has he moved again?

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                            • salymap
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5969

                              #15
                              No Anton, Nap 3 moved to Farnborough Hampshire in 1888, where he remains to this day.

                              Click on Chislehurst Society and read all about it for yourself.

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