Pronunciation watch

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Must be the weather...

I think ts's point - six-and-a-half years after the Thread started - is that one cannot "watch" (in the sense of using one's eyes) the sound of somebody's pronunciation.

An appropriate comment from A Midsummer Night's Dream comes to mind.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I think ts's point - six-and-a-half years after the Thread started - is that one cannot "watch" (in the sense of using one's eyes) the sound of somebody's pronunciation.

Well, you might think so, but turn the sound off on television, when a person is speaking RP. He/she will hardly move her lips. Compare this with someone with a Scottish or regional accent, and increased facial movement will be in evidence, because they are less likely to swallow their vowel sounds.

Does this mean posh people are lazy? Probably not, but it really does happen.

[teamsaint]

I think ts's point - six-and-a-half years after the Thread started - is that one cannot "watch" (in the sense of using one's eyes) the sound of somebody's pronunciation.

An appropriate comment from A Midsummer Night's Dream comes to mind.

That Was indeeed my point, arrived at over a lovely lunchtime cuppa, while I also pondered the cunning "wireless phone charging " system in Pret, which seems to be a lot more complicated than , well, charging a phone using a wire.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

T... while I also pondered the cunning "wireless phone charging " system in Pret, which seems to be a lot more complicated than , well, charging a phone using a wire.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Wasn't there a mention of "Laura Norder" here a couple of hours ago?

[Serial_Apologist]

Wasn't there a mention of "Laura Norder" here a couple of hours ago?

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?6704-Phrases-words-that-set-your-teeth-on-edge/page374

#3733 - fyi.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...n-edge/page374
#3733 - fyi.

- Was it really yesterday?! (And on the wrong Thread, too!)

[french frank]

I think ts's point - six-and-a-half years after the Thread started - is that one cannot "watch" (in the sense of using one's eyes) the sound of somebody's pronunciation.

But 'watch' being eventually (far enough back) cognate with 'wake' doesn't necessarily imply using one's eyes, does it (other than for joking purposes, as may be assumed with ts's comment)? It can be 'to be awake to something', 'to be vigilant' (another related idea, from vigilare).

What would the appropriate sensory term be - 'Pronunciation listen'? Even if understood it would have lost an essential element of meaning.

[Pulcinella]

But 'watch' being eventually (far enough back) cognate with 'wake' doesn't necessarily imply using one's eyes, does it (other than for joking purposes, as may be assumed with ts's comment)? It can be 'to be awake to something', 'to be vigilant' (another related idea, from vigilare).

What would the appropriate sensory term be - 'Pronunciation listen'? Even if understood it would have lost an essential element of meaning.

Alert?

PS: not one of the senses; sorry, should have read your post more closely!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

But 'watch' being eventually (far enough back) cognate with 'wake' doesn't necessarily imply using one's eyes, does it (other than for joking purposes, as may be assumed with ts's comment)? It can be 'to be awake to something', 'to be vigilant' (another related idea, from vigilare).

What would the appropriate sensory term be - 'Pronunciation listen'? Even if understood it would have lost an essential element of meaning.

Yes - even "seeing" and "vision" don't necessarily involve eyesight; the very word "eyesight" would be a clumsy tautology if it did.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Is anyone here good at lipreading?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Is anyone here good at lipreading?

Beg pardon?

[Serial_Apologist]

Beg pardon?

No one puts mouth in my words!

[jean]

The man's name is spelt Weinstein.

So you might expect an approximation to an authentic German Vineshtine.

Or a slightly less German Winestine.

Or failing that, an anglicised Weensteen.

But the authorised pronunciation seems to be Winesteen.

Which is odd, since there's the same vowel in both syllables.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

The man's name is spelt Weinstein.

So you might expect an approximation to an authentic German Vineshtine.
Or a slightly less German Winestine.
Or failing that, an anglicised Weensteen.
But the authorised pronunciation seems to be Winesteen.
Which is odd, since there's the same vowel in both syllables.

Sean Bean?