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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    Has the BBC ever managed to pronounce "Frankfurt" correctly?

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    • mercia
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      • Nov 2010
      • 8920

      how do you pronounce the ceu in pharmaceutical ? with all this talk about Pfizer and AstraZeneca a lady on R4 keeps saying pharma-cute-ical, whereas I say pharma-suit-ical

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      • Roehre

        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        how do you pronounce the ceu in pharmaceutical ? with all this talk about Pfizer and AstraZeneca a lady on R4 keeps saying pharma-cute-ical, whereas I say pharma-suit-ical
        pharma-suit-ical.
        It also pharma-see, not pharma-key

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        • Don Petter

          I was surprised to hear KD pronounce 'pathos' to rhyme with 'bat' this afternoon.

          Even my other half, who comes from oop north, and has baaths, hadn't come across this before.

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          • Vile Consort
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 696

            But pharma-kology, not pharma-sology and pharma-kopia, not pharma-soapia.

            I always say pharma-keutical but the OED gives both pronunciations. It comes from the Greek øαρμακεντικός, so classical scholars might prefer the "k" sound.

            But, as my (Austrian) German teacher used to say, "both is correct."

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            • gurnemanz
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7380

              Originally posted by Roehre View Post
              pharma-suit-ical.
              It also pharma-see, not pharma-key
              suit or syuit?

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              • gurnemanz
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7380

                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                Has the BBC ever managed to pronounce "Frankfurt" correctly?
                There is a very good reason why they might not want to pronounce the philosopher Kant authentically.

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                • Stillhomewardbound
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1109

                  I fail to see how 'pharmaceutical' would ever invite the pronounciation, as in 'cuticle'.

                  That c-e-u surely has to be a soo or a soy, and indeed, as pointed out, with the root being pharma-cee a key is simply wrong.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20570

                    How many words in English have a hard "c" when followed by an "e" or an "i"?

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30241

                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      How many words in English have a hard "c" when followed by an "e" or an "i"?
                      Celtic? THough in Scotland, football apart, it is often Seltic.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25193

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        Celtic? THough in Scotland, football apart, it is often Seltic.
                        ceredigion? how is that pronounced by welsh speakers?

                        But I'm Sceptical that we will find more.....
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30241

                          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                          ceredigion? how is that pronounced by welsh speakers?
                          Not an English word - that's Cardigan.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Honoured Guest

                            Ceredigion is the county name (taken from the ancient kingdom) and, yes, is a welsh language name.

                            The welsh language name for Cardigan is Aberteifi.

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                            • mercia
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8920

                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              How many words in English have a hard "c" when followed by an "e" or an "i"?
                              I think I would pronounce cephalopod with a hard c ........ not that I have to very often
                              and I think I've pronounced encephalitis both ways

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                              • Pabmusic
                                Full Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 5537

                                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                                I think I would pronounce cephalopod with a hard c ........ not that I have to very often
                                and I think I've pronounced encephalitis both ways
                                Many Greek words are rendered into English with a hard C - Cephalonia, for instance. Interesting, because Anglo-Saxon (Old English) used a hard C - there was no K in the alphabet (a Norman import). Thus, cynyg and cwene (king and queen), or cnyȝt (knight).

                                But in general the English C has become soft in its old age.

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