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  • ilbalen

    Pronunciation watch

    If Alexandra Wilson (presenter of Saturday's broadcast of Rossini's Otello) is supposedly an expert on Italian opera, why couldn't she manage to pronounce Evelino Pidò's surname correctly? Alexandra, cara, it ain't PEE-do, but Pi-DOH.

    And as for friend Suzy's announcement of Franz LAY-har this morning (never mind the choice of wet Alfie Boe to sing a whiskery English translation of 'Lippen schweigen') ...
  • Mr Pee
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3285

    #2
    I really can't get too discombobulated about some differences of pronunciation I'm afraid. As long we understand which composer is being referred to, and the pronunciation isn't completely idiotic, does it really matter?

    By the way, is it IlBAAlen, EYElbalen, EYELBAAlen, or IlbaLEN?
    Last edited by Mr Pee; 12-12-10, 14:23. Reason: Typos, which might have led to wrong pronunciation.
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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30450

      #3
      Originally posted by ilbalen View Post
      Franz LAY-har
      I might support that, if I'd heard it. Hungarian stresses the first syllable. The acute accent changes the quality of the a: it isn't a stress accent.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • mercia
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8920

        #4
        Originally posted by ilbalen View Post
        Saturday's broadcast of Rossini's Otello
        What was the performance like?

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        • Donnie Essen

          #5
          Are these sort of threads done for amusement, or do folk get really miffed about these things? I can never tell.

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 20572

            #6
            I get miffed about bad grammar more than pronunciation, but I think you already know that, D. E.

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            • Anna

              #7
              Well, I would say Franz LAIR, but what do I know? I don't think a mis-pronunciation spoils anyone's enjoyment of the music does it? I am with EineA, bad grammar is really annoying, as is bad spelling, the total random use of apostrophes and lack of a capital letter at the start of sentences. Oh, and also txt spk.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30450

                #8
                Originally posted by Donnie Essen View Post
                Are these sort of threads done for amusement, or do folk get really miffed about these things? I can never tell.
                I don't get miffed (often) but it's more interest than amusement. There, I'm a linguist
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • PatrickOD

                  #9
                  Nag, nag, nag. (as in horse)

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                  • Norfolk Born

                    #10
                    Spelling also matters.... by the way, is it Littleton or Lyttleton?

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                    • Stillhomewardbound
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1109

                      #11
                      It's Lyttleton. I think I'm right in saying he was the Chairman of the National Theatre Board and Olivier rarely got on with him.

                      There's also a Lyttleton in Islington, or at least a statue of one.

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                      • Mr Pee
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3285

                        #12
                        Humph was the Chairman of the National Theatre Board? Well, you learn something new every day. What a fount of knowledge these message boards are.

                        Was the lovely Samantha his PA at the time?
                        Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                        Mark Twain.

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                        • Norfolk Born

                          #13
                          Yes, I knew it was Lyttleton - I was just attempting to point out the mistake without sounding disproportionately censorious. Did Humph ever play at the Lyttleton, by the way?

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30450

                            #14
                            Um, oh, dear, nag, nag, nag &c. It's actually Lyttelton, not Lyttleton
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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