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  • gurnemanz
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7494

    I switched on Radio 3 just before 9 to hear Elizabeth Alker refer to Vilde Frang, pronouncing her surname to rhyme roughly with "wrong". Tom Service has just pronounced it to rhyme with "bang". It struck me that Ms Alker's version must surely be more authentic.

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    • oliver sudden
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      • Feb 2024
      • 790

      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
      I switched on Radio 3 just before 9 to hear Elizabeth Alker refer to Vilde Frang, pronouncing her surname to rhyme roughly with "wrong". Tom Service has just pronounced it to rhyme with "bang". It struck me that Ms Alker's version must surely be more authentic.
      It’s a while since I last spoke to a Norwegian but I wouldn’t have thought either of those was very close…

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 13313

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        How to say Vilde Frang in Norwegian? Pronunciation of Vilde Frang with 1 audio pronunciation and more for Vilde Frang.

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        • smittims
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          • Aug 2022
          • 4912

          Tom McKinney mispronounced 'Almaviva' on Thursday, and referred to Stravinsky's 'Symphony for wind instruments'.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30940

            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
            I switched on Radio 3 just before 9 to hear Elizabeth Alker refer to Vilde Frang, pronouncing her surname to rhyme roughly with "wrong". Tom Service has just pronounced it to rhyme with "bang". It struck me that Ms Alker's version must surely be more authentic.
            This isn't helpful enough. A as in 'hard' would suggest Frahng, but I'm not sure whether that is the case when it's followed by a consonantal group - (ng). I'd guess Frahng which is half way between, as it might be, bong and bang.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • LMcD
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              • Sep 2017
              • 9059

              Originally posted by french frank View Post

              This isn't helpful enough. A as in 'hard' would suggest Frahng, but I'm not sure whether that is the case when it's followed by a consonantal group - (ng). I'd guess Frahng which is half way between, as it might be, bong and bang.
              How To Prounce.com says Villed Frang (rhymes with killed bang), but the 'g' is almost silent.

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              • oddoneout
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                • Nov 2015
                • 9598

                Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                You must be watching catch up TV from the last century...


                Marathon has been Snickers for years!
                Making brief return
                https://www.theguardian.com/business...Steve%20Waters.

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                • gurnemanz
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7494

                  The disastrous earthquake has been top news for several days now. It astonishes me that quite a few news presenters still haven't twigged or bothered to find out that the 'y' in Myanmar is a consonant as in 'yes' not a vowel as in 'sky'.

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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 13313

                    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                    The disastrous earthquake has been top news for several days now. It astonishes me that quite a few news presenters still haven't twigged or bothered to find out that the 'y' in Myanmar is a consonant as in 'yes' not a vowel as in 'sky'.
                    thank you for that.

                    I still wonder why we cravenly followed the junta there in changing the name we use here : I see the French still call Burma 'Birmanie'

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22311

                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                      thank you for that.

                      I still wonder why we cravenly followed the junta there in changing the name we use here : I see the French still call Burma 'Birmanie'

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                      …and they still call London ‘Londres’

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                      • Roger Webb
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                        • Feb 2024
                        • 1212

                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post

                        thank you for that.

                        I still wonder why we cravenly followed the junta there in changing the name we use here : I see the French still call Burma 'Birmanie'

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                        Why do we call Peking, Beijing? The French still call it Pékin, the Germans, Peking, the Spanish, Pekin, and closer to (their) home the Japanese, Pekin.

                        Let's not get started on Bombay and Calcutta!

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                        • Sir Velo
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                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3336

                          And I understand the Chinese still call it Edo.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30940

                            My feeling is that other countries can do what they please with their own and other countries' names. The important thing is that, in the UK, people understand which country or city is being referred to. (I can cope with a bit of inconsistency, though it may trouble the elderly for a while )
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 13313

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              My feeling is that other countries can do what they please with their own and other countries' names. The important thing is that, in the UK, people understand which country or city is being referred to.
                              ... there are times when the change of name has political implications (cf Persia / Iran, Cambodia/Kampuchea/Cambodia). The change of name by the incoming junta in Burma was one such, and I was surprized by the rapidity with which the change was adopted in Britain, given our dislike of almost everything else the junta was doing

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                              • LMcD
                                Full Member
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 9059

                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post

                                …and they still call London ‘Londres’
                                On the other hand - why can't UK sports reporters be bothered to pronounce 'France' properly when it's preceded by 'Tour de' ?

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