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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30243

    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    and have supposed it to be a kind of homage to 'posh' speech.
    Pronounced o-MAAHge
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • umslopogaas
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1977

      Hunstanton is pronounced Hunston by Norfolk folk, and Happisburgh is pronounced Hazebruh.

      Which reminds me of a joke. A German visiting UK for the first time spends ages studying English pronunciation. Full of confidence he arrives at Waterloo Station and sees on the news screen "Pope is pronounced dead." Completely demoralised, he heads straight back home.

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      • jean
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7100

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Mis-CHEE-vious is apparently more common nowadays than the, er, 'correct' pronunciation.
        I have the impression that this (mis)pronunciation was more common when I was a child, but perhaps it's just that the word was more common then.

        As to its origins...how do people here pronounce aubrieta?

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30243

          Originally posted by jean View Post
          As to its origins...how do people here pronounce aubrieta?
          Aubrietia.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by jean View Post
            As to its origins...how do people here pronounce aubrieta?
            Similarly in rhythm and accent to "Audrey Hepburn" - or as in "Aubrey ate a" - with a distinctly Lancastrian "etta".
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Pulcinella
              Host
              • Feb 2014
              • 10887

              Originally posted by jean View Post
              As to its origins...how do people here pronounce aubrieta?
              Origins ignored if spelt aubretia, surely now more common, and pronounced (at least by me) orbreesher.

              Perhaps we should consider fuchsia next if we're talking origins?

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37591

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Aubrietia.
                Orbreesha where I come from.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30243

                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Origins ignored if spelt aubretia, surely now more common, and pronounced (at least by me) orbreesher.
                  Correction to my last: Oh-BREE-sha
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    Perhaps we should consider fuchsia next if we're talking origins?
                    If we want origins, there's not much point looking to the Fuchsia.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • jean
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7100

                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      Origins ignored if spelt aubretia, surely now more common...
                      I thought so, but the spellilng aubrieta gets 537,000 hits, while aubretia gets only 170,000, and many of those are spelt the other way.

                      Thomson & Morgan try to have it both ways.

                      Perhaps we should consider fuchsia next if we're talking origins?
                      Not the same phenomenon, because the 'i' there is in the same place in the word however you pronounce it.

                      .
                      Last edited by jean; 28-11-16, 16:59.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30243

                        Originally posted by jean View Post
                        I thought so, but the spellilng aubrieta gets 537,000 hits, while aubretia gets only 170,000
                        The first i should surely be there, since it's named after Claude Aubriet. So Aubrieta or Aubrietia. The -ia ending is very common when the plant is named after a person: Poinsett-poinsettia, Lobel-lobelia, Gloxin-gloxinia, Abel-abelia. It seems that Aubrieta is the earlier name but OED says aubrietia is the 'common name of a member of the genus Aubrieta' and lists it under the 'common name'.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • jean
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7100

                          A mere 91,000 Google hits for that spelling!

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                          • Dave2002
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18009

                            Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
                            Hunstanton is pronounced Hunston by Norfolk folk, and Happisburgh is pronounced Hazebruh.
                            Quite. I have vague recollections re the pronunciation of Attleborough too - but that may actually be pronounced as written - can't remember well enough.

                            I always liked Cholmondeley, changing counties to the west of these isles.

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                            • gurnemanz
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7380

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              The first i should surely be there, since it's named after Claude Aubriet. So Aubrieta or Aubrietia. The -ia ending is very common when the plant is named after a person: Poinsett-poinsettia, Lobel-lobelia, Gloxin-gloxinia, Abel-abelia. It seems that Aubrieta is the earlier name but OED says aubrietia is the 'common name of a member of the genus Aubrieta' and lists it under the 'common name'.
                              I imagine the confusion could be based on kind of false analogy with the pronunciation of montbretia

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                              • ahinton
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16122

                                Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                                I always liked Cholmondeley, changing counties to the west of these isles.
                                I think that it's daft; I daresay that Joanna Lolmondeley would do so too!

                                As well one might likewise pronounce Featherstonehaugh "Ferney-ho"!

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