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  • ahinton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16122

    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
    Talking about the NOW's tour of S. America this afternoon Katie D bizarrely decided to pronounce Santiago to rhyme with Diego. Difficult to know how on earth she arrived at that choice.
    Saintly ego might have been more appropriate from her, methinks...
    Last edited by ahinton; 24-02-16, 08:51.

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    • jean
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7100

      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
      ...bizarrely decided to pronounce Santiago to rhyme with Diego...
      But they're just alternative names for this guy, aren't they?

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37318

        Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
        Talking about the NOW's tour of S. America this afternoon Katie D bizarrely decided to pronounce Santiago to rhyme with Diego. Difficult to know how on earth she arrived at that choice.
        Rhymes with sago could be a reason.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20563

          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          Rhymes with sago could be a reason.
          W.S. Gilbert thought that "brasses" rhymed with "masses". As a northerner I would agree with him, but in D'Oyly Carte-speak they are pronounced as "brahsses" and "messes".

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37318

            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            W.S. Gilbert thought that "brasses" rhymed with "masses". As a northerner I would agree with him, but in D'Oyly Carte-speak they are pronounced as "brahsses" and "messes".


            jean knows all about messes.

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            • Pabmusic
              Full Member
              • May 2011
              • 5537

              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              Rhymes with sago could be a reason.
              I certainly recall rhyming Santiago with "say go" at school in the 1960s.

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              • subcontrabass
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 2780

                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                W.S. Gilbert thought that "brasses" rhymed with "masses". As a northerner I would agree with him, but in D'Oyly Carte-speak they are pronounced as "brahsses" and "messes".
                Upper-class Catholics rhyme "mahss" with "brahss".

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                • jean
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7100

                  Quite strange really, as most of them are in Lancashire.

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                  • subcontrabass
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2780

                    Originally posted by jean View Post
                    Quite strange really, as most of them are in Lancashire.
                    Probably the result of southern public-school education - the one I know who uses this pronuciation went to Downside a long time ago.

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25175

                      Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                      Upper-class Catholics rhyme "mahss" with "brahss".
                      and quite a number of non upper- class Catholics too.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Radio64
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 962

                        "Weekend". Accent on "week" or "end"?
                        "Gone Chopin, Bach in a minuet."

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                        • rauschwerk
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1477

                          Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
                          Upper-class Catholics rhyme "mahss" with "brahss".
                          So does Sean Rafferty.

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                          • Pabmusic
                            Full Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 5537

                            Originally posted by Radio64 View Post
                            "Weekend". Accent on "week" or "end"?
                            I suspect it depends on comfort. If I say "I'll see you next weekend" it will certainly have an accent on the first syllable, because that (for me) is easier to say in combination with the preceding sounds. However, "She does this every weekend" [sigh...] seems to demand an accent on the second syllable.

                            Perhaps the deciding factor is the importance of "weekend" in the sentence.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20563

                              Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
                              So does Sean Rafferty.
                              I suppose it depends on context - rather like "thirteen".

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                              • jean
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7100

                                Both weekend and thirteen are accented on both syllables pretty much equally in most contexts, surely?

                                (And what has SR got to do with it?)

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