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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30923

    Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post
    Suomi Alker
    I thought I'd heard of her so googled to see what it might say. First: 'Did you mean Suomi Walker?' No, dear, you're thinking of Sarah Walker.

    Then AI took over:' "Suomi Alker" likely refers to Elizabeth Alker, the former host of BBC Radio 3's "Saturday Breakfast" program, who was replaced by Emma Clarke on October 5, 2024' . (I keep meaning to try and make this emoji smaller as I rather like it).
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Roger Webb
      Full Member
      • Feb 2024
      • 1208

      Originally posted by french frank View Post

      I thought I'd heard of her so googled to see what it might say. First: 'Did you mean Suomi Walker?' No, dear, you're thinking of Sarah Walker.

      Then AI took over:' "Suomi Alker" likely refers to Elizabeth Alker, the former host of BBC Radio 3's "Saturday Breakfast" program, who was replaced by Emma Clarke on October 5, 2024' . (I keep meaning to try and make this emoji smaller as I rather like it).
      I only chose Alker because she's doing the afternoon show at the same time of day as the AI sounding female 'Suomi' (Suomaa would be wetter than even Alker!) on YLE.....

      Oh, BTW just been into Monmouth and, as I passed the lovely little theatre they still have, spotted a show/lecture you may be interested in, 'The Carpenters Experience'. Makes a change from the 'tribute bands' that are their mainstay.

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 9588

        Looking at the afternoon listings just now I see it includes an item which I think we hardly ever hear given its forrin, aka proper title, certainly not on the newform R3 chat'n'pieces.
        "Manuel de Falla
        El Sombrero de tres picos
        Orchestra: Orquesta Sinfónica de Radio Televisión Española. Conductor: Christoph König."
        Plenty there for Ms Alker to wrap her tongue round methinks.

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 9030

          Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post

          I don't know how it's done....I did say 'AI-sounding', but I think perhaps they are merely pre-recorded and tacked-on by the computer.

          I've heard a lady, but not for a while...a sort of Suomi Alker, and only in the afternoon (I tend to listen most in the morning) - when the trumpets change to clarinets it's walks and shopping time!

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30923

            Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post
            spotted a show/lecture you may be interested in, 'The Carpenters Experience'. Makes a change from the 'tribute bands' that are their mainstay.
            Coincidentally, I just rescued my old Workmate from storage this afternoon and have been cleaning and oiling it ready for use
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 13284

              I was corrected in my pronunciation at lunch yesterday.

              I have always [æt: suae lxxij ] pronounced the landscape-garden feature as a Ha Ha - equal stress on each Ha

              But no - it shd be ha HA! - to express the surprize of the vistor encountering the obstacle unexpectedly.

              Shan't make that mistake again...

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              • Roger Webb
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                • Feb 2024
                • 1208

                Originally posted by french frank View Post

                Coincidentally, I just rescued my old Workmate from storage this afternoon and have been cleaning and oiling it ready for use
                I have a Black and Decker W/M in my shed which I drag out to stand in for the kitchen table when my wife's in! It dates back to the mid 80s and has had a hard life (the W/M, not the wife) It still functions...but probably needs 'oiling' - I presume a little 3-in-1 on the vice screws would do it. It has many drill holes and mis-judged saw cuts....but in a way it looks as if it's been used by someone who knows how to bang a screw in!
                Last edited by Roger Webb; 31-03-25, 20:10.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30923

                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  I was corrected in my pronunciation at lunch yesterday.

                  I have always [æt: suae lxxij ] pronounced the landscape-garden feature as a Ha Ha - equal stress on each Ha

                  But no - it shd be ha HA! - to express the surprize of the vistor encountering the obstacle unexpectedly.

                  Shan't make that mistake again...

                  I think you're probably using the French pronunciation:
                  < French haha (17th cent. in Hatzfeld & Darmesteter) ‘an obstacle interrupting one's way sharply and disagreeably, a ditch behind an opening in a wall at the bottom of an alley or walk’; according to French etymologists, < ha! exclamation of surprise.

                  OED says:
                  British English
                  /ˈhɑːhɑː/
                  HAH-hah​
                  U.S. English
                  /ˈhɑˌhɑ/
                  HAH-hah​

                  which is what I say, but having tried out my pronunciation several times, and listened carefully, I would say that I pronounce it with just a very, very slight emphasis on the first, with a downward change of pitch. I think English always has at least one stressed syllable. French more often stresses the final - very lightly.

                  Roger - Yes, a battered B&Q, the two top boards horribly abused. I just sprayed all the hinged bits with WD40.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • oddoneout
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 9588

                    It's all getting a bit racy today, what with cleaning and oiling a workmate, and 3in1 on the vice screws...

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30923

                      Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                      It's all getting a bit racy today, what with cleaning and oiling a workmate, and 3in1 on the vice screws...
                      I wonder what WD40 is code for?
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 11506

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post

                        I wonder what WD40 is code for?
                        I don't know that it is 'code' for anything, as such, but it derives from the 40th formula for a water displacement product.


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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30923

                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post

                          I don't know that it is 'code' for anything, as such, but it derives from the 40th formula for a water displacement product.

                          Don't know what ooo will make of that!
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • oddoneout
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 9588

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post

                            Don't know what ooo will make of that!
                            More than is good for me, especially in combination with reading about 3in1 spray's attributes!

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                            • Roger Webb
                              Full Member
                              • Feb 2024
                              • 1208

                              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post

                              More than is good for me, especially in combination with reading about 3in1 spray's attributes!
                              3-in-1 oil is just a light machine oil which can be used for applications such as sewing machines and bikes....it doesn't come as a spray but a squarish can with a tapering tube applicator which makes an attractive little slurp as it dispenses its useful lubricant.

                              I actually have a can of WD-40 which must date back 45 years when I worked repairing musical instruments (electronic)....it's been squirted in some interesting places!!

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                              • oddoneout
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 9588

                                Originally posted by Roger Webb View Post

                                3-in-1 oil is just a light machine oil which can be used for applications such as sewing machines and bikes....it doesn't come as a spray but a squarish can with a tapering tube applicator which makes an attractive little slurp as it dispenses its useful lubricant.

                                I actually have a can of WD-40 which must date back 45 years when I worked repairing musical instruments (electronic)....it's been squirted in some interesting places!!
                                All the advantages of the top- performing product, with the added convenience of an aerosol spray

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