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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    Definitely TOE-vee.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      On BBC News 24 this morning, I heard "glacier" pronounced repeatedly as "glay-sher", but sure it's either "glay-si-er" or "gla-si-er".

      Of maybe she was drunk.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12784

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        ... i think 'glay-sher' is the normal american pronunciation.

        glacier (US: /ˈɡleɪʃər/ or UK: /ˈɡlæsiər, ˈɡleɪsiər/)

        it is not a pronunciation i wd find troubling


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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8405

          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          On BBC News 24 this morning, I heard "glacier" pronounced repeatedly as "glay-sher", but sure it's either "glay-si-er" or "gla-si-er".

          Of maybe she was drunk.
          Glassyuh ('lass' as in young lady) ?

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37589

            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            On BBC News 24 this morning, I heard "glacier" pronounced repeatedly as "glay-sher", but sure it's either "glay-si-er" or "gla-si-er".

            Of maybe she was drunk.
            Also on BBC1 lunchtime news. It must be part of some BBC command to all its announcers to "go American" - as in "train station" and the like.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              Originally posted by LMcD View Post
              Glassyuh ('lass' as in young lady) ?
              That's the way I pronounce it.

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12784

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                ... actually i'm not sure that glay-sher is an americanism.

                i see that my 1933 edn of the oed describes two pronunciations - /ˈɡlæsiər/ or /ˈɡleɪʃər/ - so glay-sher was well establisht on these shores way back then....


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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12784

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                  Reims/Rheims.

                  The usual English pronunciation is reemz /riːmz/ ; French: [ʁɛ̃s]

                  A pronunciation new to me on Breakfast this morning - ramz.

                  I think Petroc never feels totally secure when he has to pronounce French words...
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                  • LMcD
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8405

                    'Kapplemeister'? Surely it should be pronounced 'Kapellmeister'?

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                    • Sir Velo
                      Full Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3225

                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                      Reims/Rheims.

                      The usual English pronunciation is reemz /riːmz/ ; French: [ʁɛ̃s]

                      A pronunciation new to me on Breakfast this morning - ramz.


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                      No doubt he felt sheepish about pronouncing it correctly.

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12784

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                        ... ah well, mutton grumble


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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22114

                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                          ... ah well, mutton grumble


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                          Baa!

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            .

                            ... actually i'm not sure that glay-sher is an americanism.

                            i see that my 1933 edn of the oed describes two pronunciations - /ˈɡlæsiər/ or /ˈɡleɪʃər/ - so glay-sher was well establisht on these shores way back then....


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                            Interesting - though I'd never heard it pronounced this way until yesterday morning.

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                            • ardcarp
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11102

                              Apart from the long or short 'a', the sibilance or not with which the 'c' is pronounced is possibly a generational thing. IMVHO, there's a trend not to enunciate an 's' in its ultra- sibilant form. Maybe it's considered too precious? This seems especially true when the 's' precedes a 't'. For instance the word 'stress' (rather commonly used at present!) is 'shtress'. If anyone asks for 'a smoke', it's somewhere in between sssssmoke and shmoke.

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                              • Rjw
                                Full Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 117

                                Reims = ranse

                                Spoken out of the side of the mouth!

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