Pronunciation watch

[ahinton]

I would agree with that: the saint's (or saints') name is Sint AuGUSTin. But that doesn't mean one wouldn't ever hear Saint AU-gustin (and cf my comment about Austin).

I think we're very tolerant in such matters. As English speakers are more 'tolerant' (or lax) when pronouncing foreign languages

Schönberg: String Quartet No. 2 in F# minor, Op. 10 (second movement)...

[kernelbogey]

Learn'd or learnèd?

I couldn't possibly comment, ma'am.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Learn'd or learnèd?

So much easier to use the more common British spelling: learnt.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Probably the most common use of the word in ordinary conversation these days is to refer to a church dedicated to the saint, and I don't think I've ever heard the stress on the Au-.

True, and the RC secondary school of that name in Scarborough is pronounced officially as St AuGUStine's, but is referred to locally as St OGgy's.

[Padraig]

True, and the RC secondary school of that name in Scarborough is pronounced officially as St AuGUStine's

The Church of Ireland church of that name in Derry is pronounced exactly the same!

How is advertisement pronounced? I think my pronunciation is under severe challenge from, among others, my grandson and BBC local radio. I can't believe in advertISEment.

[alycidon]

Yes, and several locations in Bristol featuring the name Augustine are all pronounced or-GUS-tin.

[french frank]

I think my pronunciation is under severe challenge from, among others, my grandson and BBC local radio. I can't believe in advertISEment.

It's on the analogy of ADverTISE. But there isn't anything difficult about 'adVERtisement', is there? If the e were omitted, people would probably say adVERtizment.

I understand the pronunciation 'pri-MAR-rily' because some people find PRI-merily hard to say. And VE''n-ry or VeteRINary?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

It's on the analogy of ADverTISE. But there isn't anything difficult about 'adVERtisement', is there? If the e were omitted, people would probably say adVERtizment.

I pronounce the verb "adverTISE", and the noun "adVERtissment". More frequently, to be honest, "ADvert" - and, similarly ...

And VE''n-ry or VeteRINary?

"VET"! :smiley" (When I do pronounce the full word, it's "VETinary", four syllables, main emphasis on the first, slight one on the third.)

[jean]

What about chastisement? I learned it in childhood as CHAStissment, but you can't do that with Handel's setting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63tsdDnJtdQ

[french frank]

What about chastisement? I learned it in childhood as CHAStissment, but you can't do that with Handel's setting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63tsdDnJtdQ

Hmm, I think I would say chastising (noun) to avoid that. CHAStissement sounds odd to my ears, but probably only because it's not a word I've used with any frequency.

[jean]

Hmm, I think I would say chastising (noun) to avoid that.

That wouldn't be an option if you were reading aloud from the KJV - and a few others too, it seems!

http://biblehub.com/isaiah/53-5.htm

[vinteuil]

I understand the pronunciation 'pri-MAR-rily' because some people find PRI-merily hard to say. And VE''n-ry or VeteRINary?

... never encountered veterRINary.

Fowler as often gets to the nub " ... a stressed syllable followed by three unstressed ones is very unpopular except with professors & the like if there is an alternative... " [ entry for CONTUMELY, 1926 edn. ]

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

What about chastisement?

Well, thanks for the offer, but I'll pass.

I learned it in childhood as CHAStissment, but you can't do that with Handel's setting

I've never heard "CHAStissment" - always (probably because of the Handel connection) "chasTIZEment".

[jean]

The OED has never heard anything else: /ˈtʃastɪzmənt/ is the only pronunciation it gives!

[french frank]

That wouldn't be an option if you were reading aloud from the KJV

I sped to the OED ( which more or less agrees with you on pronunciation - /ˈtʃastɪzmənt/). I might have to create a spontaneous FFV of 'chastising' if I felt unsure; and hope there were no pedants in the congregation.

[Ed: Jean in before me!]