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  • Lateralthinking1
    • Jan 2025

    Over-familiarity

    For about the third time in as many months, a passenger leaning out of a window in a speeding white van has shouted "alright mate" to me. At least it is different from that moment in October when two people got out of a van and grabbed me by the shoulders and the head before laughing it off. Their reasons remain entirely unknown following our "conversation" such as it was.

    This has never happened before. Not in 48 years. Nothing like. It is beyond my comprehension. Each vehicle was different. Each passenger - white - was different although perhaps similar in type. On each occasion, I didn't know the person from Adam.

    In each case, it has felt slightly sinister. Possibly the oddness of the context. Possibly the inability to reply as they raced by. Do they think they know me? Do I look like someone they know? Is it a case of mistaken identity? Is it just how they relate generally? I feel unsettled by it. It doesn't fit in with my cultural code.

    Similarly I have now been approached twice by teenagers - black - holding out money. Would I buy them cigarettes? I look at them and they don't seem under the smoking age to me. They don't even look like smokers. They don't seem to approach anyone else in the vicinity. Do they just want to talk or hear what I sound like? I say I'm sorry but no.

    There is something I’m not understanding. Am I too logical? Too naïve? Too old? Too removed? I know I look gloomy. Is it that? The downbeat appearance? Are we all supposed to be smiling? Or is it that people find it unusual to see someone walking rather than in a car or walking on their own. I feel wary. Is this what happens to people generally? I don’t think so.

    Why then the over-familiarity? It doesn't feel like the world I used to know.
    Last edited by Guest; 02-12-11, 13:44.
  • salymap
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5969

    #2
    I would guess the white van drivers mistook you for someone they both know. It seems very strange but surely the only rational explanation. Don't do what I would do - get a complex about it.

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    • 3rd Viennese School

      #3
      Why do people ask me if I've got a light? Why do people ask me for fags?

      I havent smoked in my life!!!

      (except 1986)

      3VS

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #4
        Originally posted by 3rd Viennese School View Post
        Why do people ask me if I've got a light?
        3VS
        I often carry a small Maglite torch with me for just such incidents.

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          #5
          when my children were young I liked to play a game I called "Hooton Wave"
          when we would be travelling through somewhere new a small "hoot" on the horn and a "wave" usually got a return wave from the unsuspecting pedestrian
          I loved the idea that they would spend the rest of the day trying to remember who we were ..........

          now its more "Drinking and Hooting" (that's for Bryn )

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37851

            #6
            Much more alarming - and I'm willing to bet other two-wheelers have exprienced this - is passing motorists, usually young or youngish, who lean out from their cars when passing me while cycling, and shout, "WAAAAAAAGH!!!". I think the intention is to scare the living daylights out of me, causing me to lose my balance, thus giving them a bit of a larf. So far they've been unsuccessful, but they've come pretty close. It's probably not that far removed from the two incidents on the A12 in which concrete slabs were dropped from an overpass onto cars below, one of which, from reports just now, smashed a windscreen and has left a woman with life-threatening injuries. I wonder if it has anything to do with violent video games? I think more generally it is an exaggerated symptom of how the kind of system we've been groomed to accustom ourselves to living under conduces distance, a cultural trait long in common among white British, but in a much more extreme form than that described by Lat in the first post.

            S-A

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #7
              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              now its more "Drinking and Hooting" (that's for Bryn )
              Just what I'd expect from a mechanical.

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              • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 9173

                #8
                you clearly bear a strong resemblance to a major underworld figure Lat .... the one who has the white van concession at least .....
                According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26575

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  Originally Posted by 3rd Viennese School
                  Why do people ask me if I've got a light?
                  3VS


                  I often carry a small Maglite torch with me for just such incidents.



                  That made me hoot, Bryn...

                  People always seem to ask me the way to places. I check in the mirror afterwards, I don't seem to have "Speaking A to Z Streetmap" tattoo'd on my forehead... Maybe I just look at home. Or like a policeman.
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • mangerton
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3346

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 3rd Viennese School View Post
                    Why do people ask me if I've got a light?

                    Have you got a light mac?

                    No, but I've got a dark brown overcoat.

                    (Vivian Stanshall, 1967)

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                    • Anna

                      #11
                      Lat, firstly as to the "alright mate" from white van passenger, I wouldn't let it worry you. It may be that you do look gloomy and they think it'll bring a smile to your face? Or, possibly, you look like someone they know. It may be unsettling to you but I certainly don't think it is in any way sinister.

                      As to cars hooting and waving, that happens to me. I always smile and wave back just in case it's someone I know (I'm useless at recognising cars), funnily enough that does bring a smile (but, it could be Mr. GG's children!! ) I usually get asked for directions from delivery drivers if I'm waiting at our bus stop, that's perfectly logical because it's obvious that I'm a local.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37851

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Anna View Post
                        I usually get asked for directions from delivery drivers if I'm waiting at our bus stop, that's perfectly logical because it's obvious that I'm a local.


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                        • salymap
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5969

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=Serial_Apologist;106597]http://www.walkaboutcrafts.com/world...es/costume.htm

                          [/QUOTE

                          Very good S-A. Wish we in the S/E had a nice costume like that. I do have distant Welsh relatives.

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                          • Norfolk Born

                            #14
                            Sorry to hear you have distant Welsh relatives. Was it something you said? Can we do anything to make them a bit friendlier?

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                            • Anna

                              #15
                              Originally posted by salymap View Post
                              Very good S-A. Wish we in the S/E had a nice costume like that. I do have distant Welsh relatives.
                              Saly, honestly, we don't go around dressed that like!!! Only on Sundays at Chapel!

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