The Leveson Inquiry

[Mr Pee]

I'm aware that many of the contributors to this thread won't buy The Sunday Times out of some sort of sense of smug moral superiority, but there's a great column by Rod Liddle in it this week, which I thought I would share with you, this being the season of giving and all that tosh:-

Ah- so the News of the World did not delete messages left on Milly Dowler's mobile phone. That was just something The Guardian made up or, as those pious monkeys might put it, "misunderstood." This allegation was one of the main reasons the tabloid newspaper was closed down, with the loss of many jobs.

Another thing we've discovered from the Leveson inquiry is that The Guardian's investigations editor, Devid Leigh, also once hacked into someone's phone. But not, you understand, in pursuit of scummy tabloid "tittle-tattle",as he put it, but instead to fearlessly unmask wrongdoing among the powerful so as to hasten the dawn of a decent, inclusive society where everyone- black, white, gay, lesbian, transgendered- feels themselves to be empowered in a very real sense, or something. Right you are, mate.

This is the problem with sitting astride a relentlessy whinnying moral high horse. It doesn't half hurt when you fall off.

[amateur51]

I'm aware that many of the contributors to this thread won't buy The Sunday Times out of some sort of sense of smug moral superiority, but there's a great column by Rod Liddle in it this week, which I thought I would share with you, this being the season of giving and all that tosh:-

"Smug moral superiority" Mr Pee?

That's summed up Mr Liddle rather nicely I think

[ahinton]

"Smug moral superiority" Mr Pee?

That's summed up Mr Liddle rather nicely I think

And not only Mr Liddle, methinks...

[amateur51]

And not only Mr Liddle, methinks...

One of the fiction and cinema hits of recent years have been the novels of Stieg Larsson (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo etc). The woman hero, Elisbeth Salander, is very adept at hacking into the computers and mobile phones of the villains which enables her to get the upper hand and to bring the villains to justice ( or at least a sticky end).

As Oscar Wilde wrote: "The good ended happily, and the bad unhappily. That is what fiction means."

[ahinton]

One of the fiction and cinema hits of recent years have been the novels of Stieg Larsson (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo etc). The woman hero, Elisbeth Salander, is very adept at hacking into the computers and mobile phones of the villains which enables her to get the upper hand and to bring the villains to justice ( or at least a sticky end).

As Oscar Wilde wrote: "The good ended happily, and the bad unhappily. That is what fiction means."

Indeed. What we still don't have (or am I out of date with this? - I've admittedly not been following the very latest developments) is a definitive and unchallengeable answer to the Dowlers' lawyer's assertions about the significance of the 72-hour rule in the context of how the emails on Milly's phone got deleted.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

i think but am nor certain that his Lordship has instructed m'learned friends etc to get to the bottom of this


..... he can be quite menacing in his own way can the Lord .....

[amateur51]

Stuart Hoare tells Leveson inquiry his brother Sean, a former News of the World journalist, regularly talked about hacking

James Hanning, the deputy editor of the Independent on Sunday, told the inquiry that Sean Hoare had "named about eight people" at the News of the World who he had claimed were involved in phone hacking.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/dec/19/phone-hacking-sean-hoare

[handsomefortune]

this year, instead of a nativity calendar:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jul/27/news-corp-meeting-david-cameron#data

quite menacing in his own way can the Lord

imv he seems a lot more swinging than 'the conformists' (as you put it upthread cdj about the) narrow minded wide boys from the tabloids.

incidentally, who polishes levesons' scalp i want to know? - such a bloom! almost seems a shame to wear a wig in the circumstances ...so he doesn't... how cool is that! the petty crims make mr jay seem unusually reliable ...attractive too! it's quite a fashionable public trial in this sense...incredibly, it makes the courtroom seem almost modern, and up to the task!

tbh i am tired of cheap journos, i'd much rather see any supposed 'regulators' involved, thoroughly grilled ..the elusive, expensive and toothless pcc; along with managment at newspapers ...both just might provide better legal example, that future tabloid orgs (might) take note of....IF this is the actual objective?

how much proof do we really need about phone hackers themselves ... ? haven't leveson and mr jay got enough proof by now? still, i suppose it makes a 'better' spectacle, publicising the hapless, drunken, 'greedy', immoral tabloid employees ....and saddened slebs....in any other profession, hackers' behaviour might well be blamed 100% on serious mismanagment of employees....in which case we'd never have witnissed the 'delights' of noftw journos.

though nothing will bring mr hoare's brother back, his liver packed up after finally spilling the beans to the ny times....poor bloke. though to put the recent history of london journalism into perspective, the premature death of the author of 'bizzare showbiz' column inches, is nothing in comparison with the numbers of hacks/photographers who lived out their last days as paraletically, after digitalisation of the printing press combined with r maxwell pensions scandal ..... i wonder if jimmy & dad are kicking themselves that they didn't steal staff pensions ....as they watch the 'small fry' confess to leveson. just think of the missed 'savings' there!

i still feel that the australians, the US, and the UK should have had a much more co ordinated news sharing approach, as far as the tabloid empire news and related issues are concerned. i'd be particularly interested to know what the australian pm thinks oz has experienced in comparison, also at the hands of the (alleged) 'anti establishment'.

incidentally, we never did hear anything more about mr osbourne's spanky phase, and other exploits, (as reported ozside) and mr coulson's 'reward', ...... ! the subject must still be considered a hot potato in this country? beyond lord justice leveson, mr jay, and even the obstructive, and grumpy mr bar, presumably?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

...well Thurlbeck is seeing the light eventually .... a post redundancy epiphany ... mebbe what is needed is more nasty employers like the Murdoch Gang

[amateur51]

...well Thurlbeck is seeing the light eventually .... a post redundancy epiphany ... mebbe what is needed is more nasty employers like the Murdoch Gang

What a bizarre piece of writing

[french frank]

...well Thurlbeck is seeing the light eventually .... a post redundancy epiphany ...

Isn't it a bit of jiu-jitsu, 'the yielding art'? Using the strength of the opponent's attack against him so that he overstretches himself?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

.... not that smart really ........... more a simple identification with the aggressor, and why not? ... it served him well for years at in the Murdoch Gang

[amateur51]

The Inquiry gets its 2012 public hearing under way today, with testimony under oath from the Press - today it's Dominic Mohan from The Sun and Kelvin McKenzie ex-Sun editor to appear today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2012/jan/09/leveson-inquiry-kelvin-mackenzie-dominic-mohan-live

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

Mckenzie is getting ever so cross with m'learned friends .....

[Paul Sherratt]

Where in the 'World Top Ten Most Repulsive Humans' does this man currently stand ?