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  • Beef Oven

    Originally posted by Simon View Post
    Inadequacy? Fear? Festering hatred of women?

    Oh, come on. Don't hold back. Surely you can make up some other jibes. Why not call them racists, perverts and psychopaths too? After all, there's just the same amount of evidence for that as there is for the other character traits you list.

    That is, none.
    When are you coming to London?

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    • scottycelt

      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      It's a bit like a seesaw, isn't it? Tolerant in some ways and as intolerant as it ever has been in others ...
      Exactly!

      There will always be intolerance and prejudice in society against one group and the other, not least practised by those who always claim the moral high ground in such matters.

      However sincere conviction should never be confused with unthinking intolerance (as it is often outrageously and quite deliberately portrayed by opponents with their very own ulterior motivation?).

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37636

        Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
        Exactly!

        There will always be intolerance and prejudice in society against one group and the other, not least practised by those who always claim the moral high ground in such matters.

        However sincere conviction should never be confused with unthinking intolerance (as it is often outrageously and quite deliberately portrayed by opponents with their very own ulterior motivation?).
        One needs to be careful here! One could be completely sincere in being convinced that women are inferior to men. Sincerity could outbid all evidence to the contrary, if one has not examined it or been persuaded to the contrary. It is possible to be completely sincere in one's convictions, and be a complete idiot.

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        • Simon

          Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
          When are you coming to London?
          Perhaps you'd let me know what relevance your question has to Mr Skelton's unsubstantiable and inaccurate comments about some of our fellow-posters?

          If none, just state "none".

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          • amateur51

            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            One needs to be careful here! One could be completely sincere in being convinced that women are inferior to men. Sincerity could outbid all evidence to the contrary, if one has not examined it or been persuaded to the contrary. It is possible to be completely sincere in one's convictions, and be a complete idiot.
            Indeed S_A, they walk amongst us

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            • Simon

              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              One needs to be careful here! One could be completely sincere in being convinced that women are inferior to men. Sincerity could outbid all evidence to the contrary, if one has not examined it or been persuaded to the contrary. It is possible to be completely sincere in one's convictions, and be a complete idiot.
              Indeed it is S-A.

              However, I jest. Your serious point is well made.

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              • Simon

                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                Indeed S_A, they walk amongst us
                "They" ????

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                • Beef Oven

                  Originally posted by Simon View Post
                  Perhaps you'd let me know what relevance your question has to Mr Skelton's unsubstantiable and inaccurate comments about some of our fellow-posters?

                  If none, just state "none".
                  No! I won't let you know my reasons. It's a free country and I am excercising my right!

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                  • Mr Pee
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3285

                    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                    Indeed S_A, they walk amongst us
                    To whom are you referring? I assume I am included in your attack as usual, but if you can find any evidence to back up that allegation then I would like to see it.

                    As I have previously said, I am very fond of the fairer sex. Indeed I spend much of my time looking at photographs of them on this very computer......
                    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                    Mark Twain.

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                    • scottycelt

                      Of course, but even sincere idiots like you and I are entitled to our opinions in a genuinely tolerant society, S_A ... ?

                      I was referring to Ms Brooks' shameful prejudice against 'grumpy old men' which appears to have escaped some members here.

                      Can you just imagine the furore coming from the likes of Mr Skelton and others if any 'grumpy old man' had referred to Ms Brooks as an 'eye-fluttering young(er) woman'?.

                      Stereotypes are often applied to both sexes and all ages and the relatively-privileged Ms Brooks is hardly worthy of any sympathy in that regard.

                      Furthermore, it rather astounds me that all the great bastions of the liberal Left here are suddenly rushing to defend this blatant ageism and sexism.

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                      • Beef Oven

                        Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
                        ....... it rather astounds me that all the great bastions of the liberal Left here are suddenly rushing to defend this blatant ageism and sexism.
                        It's the character of lefties!!!!

                        P.S. In their sanctimoniuos cloud, they just can't see it.

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                        • amateur51

                          Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                          To whom are you referring? I assume I am included in your attack as usual, but if you can find any evidence to back up that allegation then I would like to see it.

                          As I have previously said, I am very fond of the fairer sex. Indeed I spend much of my time looking at photographs of them on this very computer......
                          Attack? What 'attack'? Calm down dear

                          Your blatant phnurr-phnurr sexism is so ... 1950s! Not even Cameron talks about women like you do.

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                          • amateur51

                            Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
                            Of course, but even sincere idiots like you and I are entitled to our opinions in a genuinely tolerant society, S_A ... ?

                            I was referring to Ms Brooks' shameful prejudice against 'grumpy old men' which appears to have escaped some members here.

                            Can you just imagine the furore coming from the likes of Mr Skelton and others if any 'grumpy old man' had referred to Ms Brooks as an 'eye-fluttering young(er) woman'?.

                            Stereotypes are often applied to both sexes and all ages and the relatively-privileged Ms Brooks is hardly worthy of any sympathy in that regard.

                            Furthermore, it rather astounds me that all the great bastions of the liberal Left here are suddenly rushing to defend this blatant ageism and sexism.
                            Grumpy old men?

                            Here's a classic grumpy old man - a real rip-snorter

                            Cardinal Keith O’Brien, leader of the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland, accused the Prime Minister of attempting to ‘redefine marriage’ for a ‘small minority of activists’.

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                            • jayne lee wilson
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 10711

                              I wonder why, here and now, and for one night only on this very thread, I feel a little sorry for my sworn enemy Rebekah Brooks...

                              it's just possible that my undisguised name and gender might be something to do with it...

                              but, whatever, greetings to dear Ams, the dishy Beef, and JS in his (former) suave hat and trenchcoat...

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                              • scottycelt

                                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                                Calm down dear .
                                How sexistly patronising ...

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