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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30456

    #61
    How do we stand with Richard Plantagenet Campbell Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville?

    And what if one of the sons married a Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax gel?
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12936

      #62
      "Richard Plantagenet Campbell Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville"

      ... thanks for that, Fr: Fr: - it had been nagging at me that there was an even better name lurking in the DNB - and you have disinterred it.

      It really is unbeatable!

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      • Anna

        #63
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Hyphenated = hi faluted
        Well S-A, yes and no, not at all. Often, when no male heir to carry on the name it's coupled so as to preserve it, otherwise it would be lost forever (to that branch) In my family a variation on that but surname, to avoid being lost, used as Christian name for males (first name) and females (middle name)

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12936

          #65
          ... I still treasure an announcement in The Times from some years back -

          " Count M Tornielli di Crestvolant and Miss L Jones
          The engagement is announced between Massimiliano, only son of the late Count Carlo Cesare Tornielli di Crestvolant and Baroness Maria Stefania Daublebsky von Sterneck, Countess Tornielli di Crestvolant, of 2 via Clitunno, Rome, and Lise, only daughter of Mr Michael Jones, of The Garden House, Wargrave, Berkshire and of Fuengirola, Spain, and Signora Emilia Lepetit, of I/a via Ariosto, Milan, Italy and Sydney, Australia."

          A novella, at the very least, in the making there...

          ... perhaps Ronald Firbank??
          Last edited by vinteuil; 20-11-11, 15:59.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26572

            #66
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            ... I still treasure an announcement in The Times from some years back -

            " Count M Tornielli di Crestvolant and Miss L Jones
            The engagement is announced between Massimiliano, only son of the late Count Carlo Cesare Tornielli di Crestvolant and Baroness Maria Stefania Daublebsky von Sterneck, Countess Tornielli di Crestvolant, of 2 via Clitunno, Rome, and Lise, only daughter of Mr Michael Jones, of The Garden House, Wargrave, Berkshire and of Fuengirola, Spain, and Signora Emilia Lepetit, of I/a via Ariosto, Milan, Italy and Sydney, Australia."

            A novella, at the very least, in the making there...

            ... perhaps Ronald Firbank??
            Perfect, vinblanc, and well-remembered!

            You have unearthed a doosie, FF

            This all puts me in mind of the fact that, based on a fictional alter ego occasionally assumed in correspondence by a friend of mine, I essayed some sub-Wodehouse sketches and short stories with questionable double-entendre undercurrents featuring Sir Peregrine Fiennes-Frobisher-Hartley and his wife Lady Coribunda. Her unmarried and somewhat racy sister Cornucopia lived with them, I recall, and their son Aethelfric attended a minor public school run by Hugo Wankham-Knightly...

            Happily perhaps, the rest is lost in the mists of time
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30456

              #67
              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
              You have unearthed a doosie, FF
              I'm not sure that mercia hasn't trumped it. I'm puzzled by the pronunciation of Tollemache given by Wikipedia. It differs from that of the present Lord T.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26572

                #68
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                I'm not sure that mercia hasn't trumped it. I'm puzzled by the pronunciation of Tollemache given by Wikipedia. It differs from that of the present Lord T.

                I love the precision of your thinking, ff!
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Ferretfancy
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3487

                  #69
                  The wonderful Eric Rhodes in one of those Astaire / Rogers movies

                  " Tonetti he say --For the woman the kiss ! For the man the sword ! "

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                  • Flosshilde
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    #70
                    I know she's foreign & doesn't, therefore, count, but I think the Duchess of Alba takes some beating - Maria del Rosario Cayetana Alfonsa Victoria Eugenia Francisca Fitz-James Stuart y de Silva (I think it's the way 'Fitz-James Stuart' is slipped in that puts the icing on the cake). That & the seven time a duchess, 22 times a countess, & 24 times a marquesa.

                    She's also fortunate in that she's allowed not to kneel before the pope (quite a benefit at 85, although she still seems to be pretty sprightly) and is allowed to ride on horseback into Seville cathedral (& quite right too - saves all that terribly undignified palaver dismounting)

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                    • vinteuil
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12936

                      #71
                      Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                      ... I think the Duchess of Alba takes some beating -
                      ... yes indeedy - and her recent marriage to a (considerably younger) commoner was a cause of serious scandal...

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30456

                        #72
                        Fancy King Juan Carlos expressing an objection to the marriage! There's grand
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Flosshilde
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          #73
                          I think the Duchess probably out-ranks Juan Carlos. I mean, is he allowed to ride a horse into Seville Cathedral?

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