Further examples of a country that has simply turned bad

[Vile Consort]

Bedrooms. An enormous amount of illegal activity takes place in bedrooms - rapes, assaults, under-age sex, incest, bestiality, you name it. These are serious crimes, for heaven's sake! I would have thought that if it helped to prevent them, then a microphone and a camera or two - or perhaps even a policeman - in every bedroom was not too high a price to pay. Of course, only footage relating to police matters would be reviewed etc. etc.

Remember - if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear.

[Lateralthinking1]

You are being ironic to make a good point well. There is something about the 60s revolution which has backfired and led to these changes. No one sane would argue for a return to the Victorian era but the benefits of the liberalisation four decades ago were to individual behaviour and discussion. It probably wasn't great that we got Kyle and Winfrey and all the rest as well.

We now have generations in charge who have no real comprehension of setting their own personal boundaries. Many might be sexually liberated but they are arguably as a consequence paranoid about personal safety and the safety of the country. That then is inflicted on everyone via ludicrous invasive legislation. They don't know where lines need to be drawn.

Mobile phones have been a contributor. It is now deemed perfectly ok to have a row on a mobile with the partner on a train.
There was a time when someone wouldn't be talking about toothache to a hundred others. The only real secrecy is about how people make their money. It seems as if that is strictly taboo.

You could stick a camera in here on most nights and find me wildly typing words about world music. Occasionally, I head racily to the kettle and make a cup of tea. It just might be that the dull nature of such activities makes me unusually oppositional to the Big Brother state. I find it bizarre and unfortunate that everyone's freedom has become pitifully shackled.

[mangerton]

.....On Mr P's post. Let's have compulsory recordings at everyone's front door and in the kitchen. Why should posties, meter readers, charity collectors and carol singers be placed in danger? Let's have a camera and a tape recorder placed on everyone who has the gall to walk to the shops. Let's have a couple. One where the poppy is sported and one on compulsory headgear.

Why make the Olympics a special time for anti-aircraft missiles? Let's have gunboats on every river, lake, reservoir, canal, brook and village pond. Rocket launchers on every disused airfield, inside shopping centres, outside football grounds. Let's have rubber bullets for every demo and a few tanks on the streets for ones involving anarchists or people who oppose fox hunting.

People have gone stark raving mad.

I've just read this thread, and am appalled at these further infringements of personal freedom and further signs of Bigbrotherism. The days of compulsory camera wearing may be nearer than we think.

Deuchar's IPA brewed by Caledonian is my beer of choice, lat, and there's plenty of it in Scotland. If you do decide to move you'll also find plenty of right (ie correct) thinking people, and precious few tories these days.

[MrGongGong]

We now have generations in charge who have no real comprehension of setting their own personal boundaries. .

This has always been true for the people in charge
and for large numbers of the population as a whole


as MrP says (and apparently believes !)

"Remember - if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear."

I have to get the tube to Stockwell on Friday so why does it make me feel just a little bit uneasy ?

[greenilex]

When we all know all about everyone, how'll we keep up the gossip?

[MrGongGong]

When we all know all about everyone, how'll we keep up the gossip?

Facebook IS Skynet

[Dave2002]

Following on from microchips in dustbins, this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-15720998

This story along with the following one tips the balance for me. I realise now that I desperately want to emigrate. I HATE it in Great Britain 2011. Absolutely LOATHE it. If I didn't have family ties here, I'd be on the first plane out tomorrow. Genuinely.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15724639

Have you ever lived abroad?

If you try it, you might decide that it's not so bad here after all, and want to come back.

[MrGongGong]

Have you ever lived abroad?

If you try it, you might decide that it's not so bad here after all, and want to come back.

I always think this is a poor argument, reminds me of my father at the height of his Toryism in the 1970's doing the
"people should stop moaning or bugger off to Russia" nonsense .............

[Dave2002]

Yes, thanks. I have clove oil going onto the gums, olive oil into the ears, a mouthguard being made, codeine tablets to take and a warm flannel being applied to the face. The worst of it is that the pain is spilling all over the forum. I will try to keep to topic.

Sometimes toothache is more due to the gums than the teeth. If that's the case, there are ways of clearing up or reducing problems quite significantly. Those little inter-dental brushes sometimes work miracles. Also, try toothpaste like Sensodyne - really does make a difference if your teeth are getting a bit porous. Try putting aspirin in the mouth next to the affected area. I have known all these things to make an improvement. However, sometimes measures, such as vigorous flossing, which appears to be loved by hygienists and dentists, seem to make things worse, at least in the short term. Sorry to take things back OT again! Good luck with this.

[Dave2002]

Mr GG

I bet you haven't tried it either.

I am not referring to the putative opinions of over 95% of the UK population who have never lived abroad, and are smug about what it must be like to live abroad. I mean "really" try it, and then see whether the UK has anything to offer.

[teamsaint]

the thing that worries me about the post 9/11 world is the way governments reacted, not the threat of terrorists.

oh, and the taxi thing is happening in Southampton as well, if the powers that be get their way.

As for the olympics..........if there was a real genuine (non mossad/CIA sponsored ) threat to a few bike and running races that in any normal year nobody could care less about, I think they should be cancelled, and the stadium and village handed over to the residents of Leyton.

[John Skelton]

I have, Dave, in a country that has historical and contemporary (not unrelated, of course), political, social and economic problems of some tragic weight. But I don't quite see what you are saying. That because it's worse in other countries be grateful for whatever you get here?

[Mr Pee]

I have to get the tube to Stockwell on Friday so why does it make me feel just a little bit uneasy ?

Quite possibly because you might get mugged on the way, although with any luck CCTV cameras in the area will help the police track down your assailants.

[MrGongGong]

Or they might decide that as i'm a man with a beard and a rucksack that it's ok to shoot me !

still "If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear"

[Mr Pee]

Or they might decide that as i'm a man with a beard and a rucksack that it's ok to shoot me !

Ah, yes. Of course. That happens all the time, doesn't it? Whereas muggings happen about once every twenty years. How silly of me.