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  • aeolium
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3992

    Palindromic date

    Today, 11/11/11, is the first properly palindromic date for a while (excluding such manufactured ones as 01/11/10). The next I think will be 12/11/21. Not sure when the last one was.

    Apart from Haydn's "Palindrome" symphony no 47, is there any other suitably palindromic music to commemorate this event?
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    The Allegro misterioso from Berg's Lyric Suite. The central movement of Webern's Piano Variations (a lot of palindromic phrasing in the second movement of the Symphony, too).

    30/11/03?
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Schrödinger's Cat
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 47

      #3
      Oops, I've just missed 11:11:11 11/11/11

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        Michael Parsons wrote some palindromic songs I seem to recall ? (Bryn will know more i'm sure!)
        not sure if they were covered by ABBA though (SOS is one though !)

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        • Schrödinger's Cat
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 47

          #5
          Robert Simpson's 9th quartet: it consists of the palindromic theme from the minuet of Haydn's 47th Symphony, followed by 32 palindromic variation movements and a fugue. Simpson apparently said that it's easy to write a palindromic movement, you just write the first half and the second half writes itself

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          • 3rd Viennese School

            #6
            Berg Lulu suite mvt 2.

            The 2nd half is the first half backwards.

            And it might not even sound like it. Thats because everything is backwards! Not just the notes. The cressendos, slurring, lenghts off notes etc.

            Its good.

            P.S. Why does 01-10-11 not count?

            3VSVE

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            • aeolium
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3992

              #7
              Why does 01-10-11 not count?
              Not the same backwards as forwards.

              Yes, 30/11/03 seems to be the last one we had - thanks, fhg. I had been thinking of 10/11/01. The last 8-digit palindromic date was presumably 12/11/1121.

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #8
                IIRC. Webern's Symphony (once George Perle got at it, that is).

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                • Tapiola
                  Full Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1688

                  #9
                  Bartok's 4th and 5th Quartets.

                  Messiaen's non retrogradable rhythms?

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                  • barber olly

                    #10
                    Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                    Today, 11/11/11, is the first properly palindromic date for a while (excluding such manufactured ones as 01/11/10). The next I think will be 12/11/21. Not sure when the last one was.

                    Apart from Haydn's "Palindrome" symphony no 47, is there any other suitably palindromic music to commemorate this event?
                    Haydn 101 may not be a date but it does have a clock.

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                    • Tapiola
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1688

                      #11
                      Bach's Crab Canon from The Musical Offering, played here, presumably, by Peter Fenn of Sale of the Century fame.

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12800

                        #12
                        Machaut's rondeau Ma fin est mon commencement et mon commencement est ma fin (My end is my beginning and my beginning is my end) is a crab canon with a third voice which is a musical palindrome.

                        I'm pretty sure there are palindromes in Ockeghem - but Waitrose calls and I can't stay to research...

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                        • Rolmill
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 634

                          #13
                          Originally posted by aeolium View Post
                          The next I think will be 12/11/21.
                          Wouldn't 21/11/12 be next? After which I believe we would have to wait for your 12/11/21 - though I'm not so sure it is right to exclude leading zeros, so 02/11/20 should count IMO.

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            If we do avoid "zero-digits", then isn't 21/1/12 the next palindromic date?
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              #15
                              2112

                              aaaaargh no please not this

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