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  • Flosshilde
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    • Nov 2010
    • 7988

    #31
    Pabs, thanks for your post #18 - most interesting (no, really ), but it still suggests that Tue's could be regarded as correct.

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    • Flosshilde
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7988

      #32
      My local park is called 'Queens Park' - reputedly named for Mary (whose last stand was in the locality) but probably named for Victoria. Given the doubt the plural rather than the posessive is probably justified.

      (However, it is (or was) also one of the best known cruising grounds in Glasgow, so the queens referred to could be of a different sort. In which case the name should be Queens' - plural and posessive)

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      • amateur51

        #33
        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
        My local park is called 'Queens Park' - reputedly named for Mary (whose last stand was in the locality) but probably named for Victoria. Given the doubt the plural rather than the posessive is probably justified.

        (However, it is (or was) also one of the best known cruising grounds in Glasgow, so the queens referred to could be of a different sort. In which case the name should be Queens' - plural and posessive)


        I am frequently thwarted by train and travel websites that insist that King's Cross station should be Kings Cross
        Last edited by Guest; 07-11-11, 10:14. Reason: trypo

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12801

          #34
          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post


          I am frequently thwarted by train and travel websites that insist that King's Cross station should be Kings Cross
          ... o, I do hope your thwarts aren't too frequent!

          King's Cross, of course. But why, when it's Earl's Court - is it Barons Court (sans apostrophe) next along?

          My pastoral imaginings of earlier life here were destroyed when I realised it was not Shepherds' Bush but rather Shepherd's Bush. And apparently a Mr Shepherd rather than a representative sheep-herd...

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          • Don Petter

            #35
            Isnt it nice to have a thread were you can just slam in any old text without thinkin and the'll just assume your bein clever an joinin in the fun?

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            • Pabmusic
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              • May 2011
              • 5537

              #36
              Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
              ...it still suggests that Tue's could be regarded as correct.
              Yes, I agree because I think 'Tue' is our modern rendition of 'Tiw"; we can then regard the apostrophe as indicating just the possessive sense, instead of actually taking the place of a missing 'e'. Tue'sday. I think we could do something similar with Woden's day (Wedn'sday) and Thor's day (Thur'sday), though the other days bring some problems. The Anglo-Saxon Frīġedæġ is 'day of Frige" and doesn't have the possessive '-es' because it already ends in 'e'. But we would have to write "Fri'day" I suppose to indicate the possessive, perhaps we'd even need to add an 's' - Fri'sday. The Old English for Saturday was Sæternesdæg (Saturn's day) so I suppose we'd need something similar - Saturn'sday. The other days have the irregular '-an' ending for a possessive. Sunday was Sunnandæg, which is Sun's day; and Monday was from Mōnandæg (Moon's day).

              My anorak still has life in it!

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              • Flosshilde
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                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                #37
                Ooh absolutely - would not it be fun to use the above instead of the conventional spellings?

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                • Flosshilde
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  #38
                  And to respond to the original question, I think it's a crying shame.

                  My mobile phone has relegated the apostrophe to 5th position on the second screen of punctuation, symbols etc. This makes it less important than the bent arrow you find on the 'return' key on a computer or the wavy hyphen - so essential when writing a message!

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                  • Panjandrum

                    #39
                    As upsetting (at least to me) as the misuse of the apostrophe, is the increasingly frequent misuse of the word, "where" as in "we where going". I can just about understand (though not condone) the interpolation of "of", as in "could of; should of; would of", due to the similarity of sound, but how the hell can anyone confuse "were" with "where"?

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                    • teamsaint
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25204

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                      Yes, I agree because I think 'Tue' is our modern rendition of 'Tiw"; we can then regard the apostrophe as indicating just the possessive sense, instead of actually taking the place of a missing 'e'. Tue'sday. I think we could do something similar with Woden's day (Wedn'sday) and Thor's day (Thur'sday), though the other days bring some problems. The Anglo-Saxon Frīġedæġ is 'day of Frige" and doesn't have the possessive '-es' because it already ends in 'e'. But we would have to write "Fri'day" I suppose to indicate the possessive, perhaps we'd even need to add an 's' - Fri'sday. The Old English for Saturday was Sæternesdæg (Saturn's day) so I suppose we'd need something similar - Saturn'sday. The other days have the irregular '-an' ending for a possessive. Sunday was Sunnandæg, which is Sun's day; and Monday was from Mōnandæg (Moon's day).

                      My anorak still has life in it!
                      I shall be popping down to Gosport later this week, to go through all this at the chippy.
                      We will be talking, of course, in ancient scumpy.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37641

                        #41
                        Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                        A tv/music shop in Greenock many years ago had a van emblazoned with "television's, radio's, record player's".......................
                        ................valves?

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                        • mangerton
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3346

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                          ......... but how the hell can anyone confuse "were" with "where"?
                          I think poor pronunciation has a lot to do with poor spelling.

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                          • mangerton
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3346

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            ................valves?
                            This was very near the end of the valve era, so valve's were not advertised.

                            Co-incidentally, my valve amplifier developed a fault yesterday evening, so is currently out of action.

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                            • Panjandrum

                              #44
                              Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                              I think poor pronunciation has a lot to do with poor spelling.
                              Exactly: but who the dickens says "we where going"? Perhaps some subconscious link is made between the verb "to go" and the place "where" one is going.

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                              • Don Petter

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Panjandrum View Post
                                Exactly: but who the dickens says "we where going"? Perhaps some subconscious link is made between the verb "to go" and the place "where" one is going.
                                Where-wolves?

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