They all look the same

[Guest]

Just spotted this from the schedule for yesterday's Through the Night:

1:52 AM
Badarzewska-Baranowska, Tekla (1838-1862)
The maiden's prayer (Op.4)
Kyung-Sook Lee (female) (piano)

???!!!???

What about the Leslies, Hillaries, Kims and other androgynous names?

[mercia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badarzewska-Baranowska

funny comments from Percy Scholes about The Maiden's Prayer

[Serial_Apologist]

I thought a maiden's prayer was something else...

[notinajumalainukhaju]

Did you mean this one, mercia? I believe she is a fairly well established artist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqf5S0pbd_w

She was a finalist at the Clara Haskil piano competition in 1975.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badarzewska-Baranowska

[mercia]

sorry, I was more interested in the composer than the performer, which I appreciate is diverging (so soon) from the point of the thread ........ sorry

looks like the playlist wasn't edited properly

[french frank]

looks like the playlist wasn't edited properly

Looks like a hint for the presenter - remember to say 'she' not 'he' ???

[Don Petter]

Dr Spooner would have just had a Look See?

[notinajumalainukhaju]

Thanks for the digression, though. Get's worse:


[from Wikipedia]
It is also played on certain garbage trucks in Taiwan.[3][4]

and worse:

"From Consensus to Shifting Coalition: Tri-partite Politics in the Taipei City Council", p. 21, by Jaushieh Joseph Wu, National Chengchi University, in Working Papers in Taiwan Studies No. 8 (where the piece is mistakenly attributed to Beethoven)

[Simon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badarzewska-Baranowska

funny comments from Percy Scholes about The Maiden's Prayer

Hardly funny: more unkind - but then, Scholes wasn't anybody great. Yes, it's tonic and dominant, and yes, it needs modulation and variation, but of itself the basicmelodic line is fine: it just needed better treatment.

At least the poor young girl has something in her memory. RIP.

[mercia]

RIP

indeed.

Now that I have actually listened to the piece it doesn't strike me as any worse than the many waltzes that must have been churned out over the years. I'm not sure that the length of the piece would allow for much modulation. Judging by the number of performances on Youtube alone, it obviously remains a very popular piece. I wonder why Percy so disliked it. Probably jealousy.

Please add an extra flower to Tekla's grave, on my behalf, when you next visit.

[Tapiola]

but then, Scholes wasn't anybody great.

No, he was merely responsible for the most comprehensive, informative and influential single-volume encyclopedia of music ever written. A footnote in musical scholarship. A fraud.

[Simon]

No, he was merely responsible for the most comprehensive, informative and influential single-volume encyclopedia of music ever written. A footnote in musical scholarship. A fraud.

Sorry - I should have made it clearer: I meant that he wasn't anybody artistically great.

As a compiler of notes about others, he did a comprehensive enough job: I have the result of his labours on my shelf here as I type! Though it's clearly not without both bias and error on occasions...

[Tapiola]

As a compiler of notes about others, he did a comprehensive enough job

And not only on notes about others. His articles on form, harmony, instruments etc are miniature masterpieces, IMO.

Though it's clearly not without both bias and error on occasions...

so, similar to every other dictionary and encyclopedia of music then!

[Ferretfancy]

I once had the misfortune to hear a local choral society give a performance of a cantata by AR Gaul ( 1837-1913), and I've always treasured the comment on him by Percy Scholes.
" He practised in Birmingham, and wrote sacred cantatas, which during the last third of the nineteenth century had immense vogue in his own country, and some in America.
In the public museum at Rouen is to be seen the pencil he used in composing Joan of Arc ( presented by himself ) - likewise the indiarubber. "

[Simon]

I may have missed something Ferret, but why that comment? Gaul clearly gave immense pleasure to many with his works at one period at least, though I don't think I've heard any myself, and as for rubbing out -- even Mozart did that.

Scholes appears to me like some fussy little know-all, who composed nothing, having digs at honest and popular artists who wrote things that he didn't personally like. Despite his useful talents at research.