I like the Alwyn symphonies but I wouldn't regard them as masterpieces. I don't like Arnold's music much at all - no doubt my problem not his !
Let's all learn a new symphony !
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Originally posted by Petrushka View PostAs another lifelong Brucknerite I am ashamed to say that I still cannot get on with the 2nd Symphony. The others pose no problems at all (even the Symphony No '0'). It isn't for want of trying either as I have Karajan, Wand, Jochum, Solti, Giulini and Stein on my shelves. Like the Brahms Piano Concerto No 1 (another once intractable work) it will click into place eventually. Have to say though that the scherzo of the 2nd is wonderful, one of Bruckner's finest. Will keep on trying with the rest.
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostPerhaps you should try the Tintner. He uses a different version of the score.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostYes; for all Karajan's customary attention to detail and glorying in the sound, the cut in the Slow movement of his recording sounds like a terrible tape edit once you know the complete version. One of those occasions where the cuts make the work sound longer because the argument doesn't hold together. Tintner is superb; possibly the best thing he did.
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostYes; for all Karajan's customary attention to detail and glorying in the sound, the cut in the Slow movement of his recording sounds like a terrible tape edit once you know the complete version. One of those occasions where the cuts make the work sound longer because the argument doesn't hold together. Tintner is superb; possibly the best thing he did.
Richard Osborne in 11/2013 Gramophone reports that Blomstedt, in his fine new Leipzig Gewandhaus (live) Bruckner cycle, plays "William Carraghan's 2005 critical edition of the 1872 original in which the scherzo comes second". Tintner plays Carraghan 1991 edn. - so there's now another reading of the best and most complete version, following Chailly in Leipzig, Bosch Young et al., (unless Carraghan has made further emendations to 1991..). (And it is aas!)
Really, all those earlier editions do pale alongside this one - Bruckner knew what he was doing and the piece did make sense in 1872!Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 09-11-13, 18:34.
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I ought to get to know Bruckner's First Symphony, ass well, especially as this new recording by Abbado has come out now. I am glad of that, because, otherwise it be part of that huge Abbado/Symphony Edition, of which I have numerous doublings.Don’t cry for me
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostRichard Osborne in 11/2013 Gramophone reports that Blomstedt, in his fine new Leipzig Gewandhaus (live) Bruckner cycle, plays "William Carraghan's 2005 critical edition of the 1872 original in which the scherzo comes second". Tintner plays Carraghan 1991 edn. - so there's now another reading of the best and most complete version, following Chailly in Leipzig, Bosch Young et al., (unless Carraghan has made further emendations to 1991..). (And it is aas!)
Really, all those earlier editions do pale alongside this one - Bruckner knew what he was doing and the piece did make sense in 1872!
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