20th Century Violin Concertos

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  • Tony Halstead
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1717

    #61
    Skryabin should have written one
    quite so, absolutely agreed!
    here's my list:
    DELIUS
    ELGAR
    SCHOENBERG
    BARBER
    BLAKE (David not Howard )
    PROKOFIEV #1
    WALTON
    HINDEMITH
    BERG
    BRITTEN

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    • Barbirollians
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11828

      #62
      i have been very charmed by the York Bowen Violin Concerto on Dutton almost the Rachmaninov Violin Concerto in feeling .

      Elgar Berg Bartok 1&2 ,Prokofiev 1&2 , Britten ,Walton ,Sibeliusand Nielsen my 20th century favourites .

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      • Richard Barrett
        Guest
        • Jan 2016
        • 6259

        #63
        Let's see now. Berg (which I heard yesterday evening), Holliger, Bartók, Szymanowski, Ligeti, Dutilleux, maybe Stravinsky...

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        • Pulcinella
          Host
          • Feb 2014
          • 11185

          #64
          Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
          ...maybe Stravinsky...
          Definitely Stravinsky (but then Pulcinella is neoclassical ).

          Haven't trawled through the thread to see which have been mentioned before but I'd add the Martinu, Piston, Schuman, and Rubbra to those in the more recent postings here.
          And there must be some C21 ones by now: Adès anyone?

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          • Richard Barrett
            Guest
            • Jan 2016
            • 6259

            #65
            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
            there must be some C21 ones by now: Adès anyone?
            No thanks. I wasn't so keen on Birtwistle or Dillon either. However the Simon Holt Witness to a Snow Miracle, recently out on CD, I found very engaging indeed.

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11828

              #66
              Eotvos Seven I enjoyed a great deal on Pat Kop's record.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37915

                #67
                I'd just like to add Samuel Barber's, if it hasn't already been mentioned? Up there with Prokofiev 1 and Walton in that returnable to neo-romantic category, for me.

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                • Pulcinella
                  Host
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 11185

                  #68
                  Looks like we could do with a summary of the thread and its purpose, and perhaps an extension to this century.
                  As the original poster, are you up for the task, ferney?

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #69
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    In a recent posting on the "What are you listening to now?" thread, Waldhorn referred to the Delius Violin Concerto as "one of the handful of truly great" VCs of the 20th Century.

                    My "hands" would include those of Elgar, Schönberg, Berg, Bartok (#2) and Ligeti, but I would hate to be deprived of the Stravinsky, Britten, Prokofiev, Sibelius, Nielsen, Walton, Nordheim, Panufnik, Barber, Rosza, Korngold ... and Ferneyhough's Terrain.

                    In fact, I think that the 20th Century produced more good Violin Concertos than did the 19th: does anyone else share this opinion?
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                    Looks like we could do with a summary of the thread and its purpose, and perhaps an extension to this century.
                    As the original poster, are you up for the task, ferney?
                    Done.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Pulcinella
                      Host
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 11185

                      #70
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      Done.

                      PS: I've just noticed what exactly it is that you have 'done'!
                      Last edited by Pulcinella; 13-05-17, 13:07. Reason: PS added.

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        My top ten 20th Century violin concertos are:

                        1 Ligeti
                        2 Ligeti
                        3 Ligeti
                        4 Ligeti
                        5 I don't have a fifth favourite
                        6 Ligeti
                        7 Schuman
                        8 Berg
                        9 Rubbra
                        10 One of Piston's

                        And Shostakovich - either his first or second

                        Possibly Britten

                        Skryabin should have written one
                        Updated list

                        1. Ligeti
                        2. Bartok #2
                        3. Berg
                        4. Schoenberg
                        5. Schumann
                        6. Britten
                        7. Rubbra
                        8. Penderecki #2
                        9. Penderecki #1
                        10. Piston #2

                        Bubbling under - Barber, Szymanowski, DSCH, Dutilleux.

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                        • jayne lee wilson
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10711

                          #72
                          I was sure I had a list here.... into air, into thin air...

                          Oh God.... let's think........

                          Gubaidulina - Offertorium
                          Martinu - No.1
                          Roberto Gerhard(**)
                          Kancheli - Chiaroscuro/Twilight (my 2015 Record of the Year)
                          David Matthews 1&2
                          Robin Holloway
                          Dutilleux - L'Arbre des Songes
                          Ghedini - "Il Belprato"
                          Saariaho - Graal Theatre
                          Per Norgård 1 & 2....

                          (**)JLW Special Distinction Award

                          "program subject to change & alteration..."
                          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 13-05-17, 18:46.

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            #73
                            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                            I was sure I had a list here.... into air, into thin air...

                            Oh God.... let's think........

                            Gubaidulina - Offertorium
                            Martinu - No.1
                            Roberto Gerhard
                            Kancheli - Chiaroscuro/Twilight (my 2015 Record of the Year)
                            David Matthews 1&2
                            Robin Holloway
                            Dutilleux - L'Arbre des Songes
                            Ghedini - "Il Belprato"
                            Saariaho - Graal Theatre
                            Per Norgård 1 & 2....


                            "program subject to change & alteration..."
                            Very interesting list Jayne. I have no doubt when I update my list next, Gubaidulina will be in there. I’m thinking more in terms of 'In tempus praesens'.

                            The Roberto Gerhard violin concerto is an excellent selection. I only bought the Lyrita CD last year so it’s quite new to me, and when I get that disc out, I tend to concentrate on the coupling - Symphony #4.

                            Last edited by Beef Oven!; 14-05-17, 08:37. Reason: o

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                            • jayne lee wilson
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 10711

                              #74
                              That Lyrita is true classic if ever there was one!
                              But the Chandos with Charlier/Bamert is possibly even better and in more spacious wide-ranging sound. BTW, according to Paul Conway's Lyrita note, Gerhard made a cut in the scherzo (i.e part two of the first movement after the cadenza)in preparation for the original Argo LP of the Lyrita recording, restored for the Chandos and partly responsible for the latter being almost 2 minutes longer. Sad to note - as Ed Greenfield says in the Gramophone review of 2/72, Gerhard didn't live to hear the recording itself, as he died in 1970.

                              And if you need any more temptation the Bamert recording of the 1st Symphony (c/w Vn Cto) is truly spectacular, but poetic and very atmospheric too. There isn't much choice in this repertoire so we're lucky to have the Chandos Series as a premium choice and Auvidis as more than useful alternatives, if less polished orchestrally & sonically - (or at least what's left of the latter - no downloads).
                              (The BBCSO/Dorati Gerhard 1st never yet made it to CD....)
                              Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 13-05-17, 20:23.

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                              • EdgeleyRob
                                Guest
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12180

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                                i have been very charmed by the York Bowen Violin Concerto on Dutton almost the Rachmaninov Violin Concerto in feeling.

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