YOUR MEMORY especially as you age.

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  • salymap
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5969

    YOUR MEMORY especially as you age.

    I notice,with some regret, that now I am in my 80s, [yuk], my musical memory is getting patchy. Has anyone else noticed this in themselves?

    I recognise that I am listening to Beethoven or Mozart but the work, so familiar to me could be symphony xx or xx.** Sometimes it comes, sometimes not. There is not problem with works like,say, Kodaly Hary Janos or the Prokofiev Classical Symphony which have their own character.

    One mistake I have made before, this morning the Mozart Rondo K269 was thought to be one of the little Rossini String Sonatas until the penny dropped.

    I am sure our 'real' musicians on the MBs will never own up to this but has anyone else had trouble with memory lapses? ** It doesn't happen all the time.
  • Norfolk Born

    #2
    Hi salymap! I sometimes find that, having correctly identified the composer of a work, I am not at all sure which particular work I'm listening to. I'm ashamed to say that this even applies to masterpieces such as Mozart's late symphonies: "It's the 'Linz' ...no, it must be the 'Prague' - silly boy, it's the 'Jupiter'. Or is it the G Minor?"

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    • Pabmusic
      Full Member
      • May 2011
      • 5537

      #3
      I hate it whenever I don't seem to have the recall I once did. However, we're probably luckier than most:

      http://www.emedexpert.com/tips/music.shtml
      http://www.fyiliving.com/research/musicians-brains-stay-sharp-as-they-age/

      http://www.generationamerica.org/articles/health-and-wellness/study-says-music-helps-fight-age-related-hearing-problems

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #4
        I find that, whilst I can recall and identify works that I "learnt" up to the age of around thirty, after that age I am much less precise. So, (he said, tempting fate!) I don't have a problem identifying which movement from which of the Beethoven/Brahms/Mahler/Tchaikovsky Symphonies I might overhear, but can only feebly say "Ah, that's from one of the Bach Cantatas" (if I "know" the cantata in the first place, of course!). I can sing along to the melody or accompaniments of an individual movement, but (apart from the opening movements) I can't say which precise work it comes from until I hear the next recitative.

        The only way nowadays that a "new" piece really "sticks" is if I can follow it with a score: visual memory helps to "place" the context of a piece.

        One of the hazards of loving so much Music, I suppose.

        Best Wishes.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37659

          #5
          At 65 I have no difficulty in identifying works, even from catching a couple of seconds; it's names I that often have problems remembering - even well-known composers' names - especially if I am tired, late at night, etc. Particularly with personalities I haven't been thinking about for a long time. It's the same with people I meet in general.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #6
            I find that, whilst I can recall and identify works that I "learnt" up to the age of around thirty, after that age I am much less precise. So, (he said, tempting fate!) I don't have a problem identifying which movement from which of the Beethoven/Brahms/Mahler/Tchaikovsky Symphonies I might overhear, but can only feebly say "Ah, that's from one of the Bach Cantatas" (if I "know" the cantata in the first place, of course!). I can sing along to the melody or accompaniments of an individual movement, but (apart from the opening movements) I can't say which precise work it comes from until I hear the next recitative.

            The only way nowadays that a "new" piece really "sticks" is if I can follow it with a score: visual memory helps to "place" the context of a piece.

            One of the hazards of loving so much Music, I suppose.

            Best Wishes.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 9173

              #7
              yep recall is one thing recognition another, every morning i look in the mirror and wonder who the .........
              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #8
                One of the students yesterday played a Schubert Impromptu(he is aged circa 12), grade 8 piano!! For the life of me I couldnt remember which one!
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • Stillhomewardbound
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1109

                  #9
                  I think you'll find that a spell listening to Classic FM will remove any such challenges to your memory.

                  In the office where I work we have recently acquired a radio and it is on Classic FM. Well, what can I say? Their library can amount to little more than a small cupoboard in the corner of their production office.

                  The repertoire is so restricted, real 'greatest classic bits' fare, and ye gods, the repetition factor fare addles the brain: Songs of the Auvergne every afternoon about four, Beethoven-Beethoven-Beethoven, Firebird Suite, Arrival of the fuppin' Queen of Sheba, MacCunn's Land of ... , Die Fledermaus overture, Holberg Suite, Lark Ascending.

                  The horror of it!

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                  • Flosshilde
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    I find that, whilst I can recall and identify works ...One of the hazards of loving so much Music, I suppose.

                    Best Wishes.
                    Ferney, had you forgotten that you already said this in post no. 4?

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                    • Chris Newman
                      Late Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 2100

                      #11
                      When I were a lad at school I were famed for my endless store of ribald jokes. I remembered them just like that, as Tommy would have said. Even my teachers thought I should be a comedian (sometimes said without irony). Nowadays if somebody tells me a joke I have forgotten it thirty seconds later. Yet I remember all those that I learnt as a kid. I can recall people I went to particular concerts with fifty years ago and the conversations we had, yet can forgot what I did yesterday.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26529

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                        Ferney, had you forgotten that you already said this in post no. 4?
                        A low blow!!
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • salymap
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5969

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                          Ferney, had you forgotten that you already said this in post no. 4?
                          Flossie, I saw that but what about trying to be nice to the poor old geezer

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                          • barber olly

                            #14
                            Memory Almost Full - Paul McCartney's album title a couple of years ago, says it all. Too much in there to take any more. Learning the words of songs as I have to do as a male-voice choir member is more difficult now than it was years ago. I can still remember the lyrics of songs I sang at school, particularly frm Singing Together at junior school, and also those from the Beatles albums I used to sing along to. With Mozart I usually know what K no each work has but not necessarily which I am listening to.

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                            • Stillhomewardbound
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1109

                              #15
                              It seems to me I've heard that song before
                              It's from an old familiar score
                              I know it well, that melody
                              It's funny how a theme recalls a favorite dream
                              A dream that brought you so close to me

                              I know each word because I've heard that song before
                              The lyrics said 'Forever more'
                              Forever more's a memory
                              Please have them play it again
                              And I'll remember just when
                              I heard that lovely song before

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