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[french frank]

IThe cynic in me thinks that over the years This Morning has annoyed a lot of journos who are enjoying their revenge notably Eamonn Holmes whose interviews on GB News are miniature masterpieces of putting the boot in.
But behind the scenes there’ll be plenty who worked there , left or were kicked out , and are now in positions of power. There’s an interesting article by a former This Morning Head of News that’s absolutely scathing about the work culture.

That's an interesting idea which sounds plausible. As someone who has never seen the programme, I thought it seemed such a small story, though I had noted (from the Coop news rack) all the (introductory) hoohah over 'Holly and Phil' falling out for days beforehand. The media soap story building up to a climax? Quite bizarre. But people have become very odd: you exchange smiles with a passer-by and say 'Good morning' and they stop dead in their tracks, remove an earbud and look enquiringly at you. And you have to say, 'Oh, I'm so sorry. I do apologise. I just said good morning.'

[eighthobstruction]

That's an interesting idea which sounds plausible. As someone who has never seen the programme, I thought it seemed such a small story, though I had noted (from the Coop news rack) all the (introductory) hoohah over 'Holly and Phil' falling out for days beforehand. The media soap story building up to a climax? Quite bizarre. But people have become very odd: you exchange smiles with a passer-by and say 'Good morning' and they stop dead in their tracks, remove an earbud and look enquiringly at you. And you have to say, 'Oh, I'm so sorry. I do apologise. I just said good morning.'

....ff you have to cultivate the definite, eye contact nod (slight smile raised eyebrows)....

[Bryn]

....ff you have to cultivate the definite, eye contact nod (slight smile raised eyebrows)....

Quite. After all, Bristol is in the South, not the North.

[LHC]

I wish you luck with it but , unless things have changed BBC , ITV and OFCOM don't “entertain” complaints about story selection , story length and running orders. The various codes are much more about fairness, impartially , bias , accuracy etc. Having said that there were so many complaints about the (perceived to be ) excessive mourning period for the Duke Of Edinburgh that it’s said the Beeb had a rethink about subsequent royal coverage. I actually liked the wall to wal music in Radio 3 after the D of E ‘s demise as I’m very much of the too much chat on R3 school.
On the Schofield story I’m amazed at the amount of coverage for a programme that gets under a million viewers. It’s not even in the top 50 . The cynic in me thinks that over the years This Morning has annoyed a lot of journos who are enjoying their revenge notably Eamonn Holmes whose interviews on GB News are miniature masterpieces of putting the boot in.
But behind the scenes there’ll be plenty who worked there , left or were kicked out , and are now in positions of power. There’s an interesting article by a former This Morning Head of News that’s absolutely scathing about the work culture.

I think Eamonn Holmes falls into the category of those who "worked there, left or were kicked out". He and his wife used to be co-presenters of This Morning with 'Holly and Phil' and appear still to be rather sore both about the way they were sacked, and also about the way they feel they were tricked into playing a part in Schofield's announcement that he was gay (to the surprise of absolutely no one).

I agree with everyone else, this sort of thing used to be confined to the gossip pages of the tabloid newspapers, but now seems to be headline news across all media outlets. It's not news and barely deserves a mention.

This does seem to be a result of the BBC's overreliance on using papers such as the Mail, and what is trending on Twitter, for determining what stories are important, rather than taking an independent editorial stance.

[Tevot]

I get all I need from my online Times subscription, the Guardian and Independent websites, and (mainly for amusement) York Press: Best Fish and Chip shops in North Yorkshire, for example.
In case you're wondering:

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/235...es-fish-chips/

Thanks very much for the link Pulcinella. We will be visiting Whitby in early July and Trenchers is most certainly on the list. The Magpie is still trading on its reputation established some 40 years ago imho .... I've heard very mixed reviews about it of late. At least with Trenchers (excellent food) you don't have to queue outside for ages.

Best,

Tevot

[french frank]

A classic forum deviation from the subject. I read the Trenchers review: "Light and roomy inside, good friendly service, good menu and great fish, chips and mushy peas. What's not to like!"

Erm, mushy peas?

[Bryn]

A classic forum deviation from the subject. I read the Trenchers review: "Light and roomy inside, good friendly service, good menu and great fish, chips and mushy peas. What's not to like!"

Erm, mushy peas?

I used to have the same reaction until I tried the fare at what is now renamed as the Princess of Cambridge pub/restaurant in Windsor. Their lunchtime 'fish and chips' came with 'home-made' mushy peas (i.e. made from dried marrowfat peas). I found them delicious and since then have also discovered that the basic tinned mushy peas from Tesco complemented fish well, too. Hurrah for mushy peas!

[Pulcinella]

A classic forum deviation from the subject. I read the Trenchers review: "Light and roomy inside, good friendly service, good menu and great fish, chips and mushy peas. What's not to like!"

Erm, mushy peas?

I'm sure that they'd serve you garden peas instead (though possibly with a look of sufferance as they did so!).
If there's a shock announcement in the York Press (North Yorkshire fish and chip shop changes menu to cater for others' fads!) I'll let you know.



(PS: I thought I had posted this earlier but can't see it so can't have done, though the content had been autosaved!)

Pace Bryn; I certainly remember packets of dried peas and the tablet of sodium bicarb that came with them (rather like the twist of salt in a bag of crisps).
Apologies too for continuing with the deviation!

[Serial_Apologist]

I'm sure that they'd serve you garden peas instead (though possibly with a look of sufferance as they did so!).
If there's a shock announcement in the York Press (North Yorkshire fish and chip shop changes menu to cater for others' fads!) I'll let you know.



(PS: I thought I had posted this earlier but can't see it so can't have done, though the content had been autosaved!)

Pace Bryn; I certainly remember packets of dried peas and the tablet of sodium bicarb that came with them (rather like the twist of salt in a bag of crisps).
Apologies too for continuing with the deviation!

I feel certain there has to be some profound lesson in the fact that while peas can be mashed into mushy peas, they cannot then be re-constituted back into peas.

[french frank]

Well, to each his [sic] own, I say . In fact, although I love fish and have nothing against chips now and again, the standard chippie fish 'n' chips meal is not greatly to my taste. I think perhaps mushy peas spread lightly like a tapenade over bread or crackers, perhaps with a dash of chopped red chilli might be quite interesting though. Do mushy peas have to be made from processed peas (which might not count as part of your 10-a-day plant-based foods) or could you use fresh peas once they arrive in the green'grocer's'?

[Pulcinella]

Well, to each his [sic] own, I say . In fact, although I love fish and have nothing against chips now and again, the standard chippie fish 'n' chips meal is not greatly to my taste. I think perhaps mushy peas spread lightly like a tapenade over bread or crackers, perhaps with a dash of chopped red chilli might be quite interesting though. Do mushy peas have to be made from processed peas (which might not count as part of your 10-a-day plant-based foods) or could you use fresh peas once they arrive in the green'grocer's'?

Here's a BBC recipe: they use marrowfat peas.

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/easy-mushy-peas

Marrowfat peas are green mature peas (Pisum sativum L. or Pisum sativum var. medullare) that have been allowed to dry out naturally in the field, rather than being harvested while still young like the normal garden pea. They are starchy, and are used to make mushy peas.

Can't say I've ever tasted mint or lemon in what I've been served.
Would be fine as a tapenade I'd have thought.
(Maybe we need to adjourn to the Cooking thread!)

[oddoneout]

I feel certain there has to be some profound lesson in the fact that while peas can be mashed into mushy peas, they cannot then be re-constituted back into peas.

Well I'm sure if it were deemed desirable some factory process could be devised. Mashing stuff up and re-forming it seems to be big business in the food world these days. Mind you, if the mushy peas were reconstituted they still wouldn't be what you would recognise as garden peas - there's a reason why marrowfat peas are used rather than the Birds Eye type.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Rather like a TV production meeting why do things always start with an earnest debate on editorial values and end with a discussion on what to eat ?

[teamsaint]

Rather like a TV production meeting why do things always start with an earnest debate on editorial values and end with a discussion on what to eat ?

Obviously because in both situations people get hungrier as time passes. Hunger is an excellent way of ending over long meetings IMO.

[Pulcinella]

Obviously because in both situations people get hungrier as time passes. Hunger is an excellent way of ending over long meetings IMO.

And in reality, ts: meagre Quaker offerings (and minutes written up in advance for everyone to agree on) really do speed things along.